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Our New Machine, Pandora Discussion about the new handheld.

Poll: Dr MewMew Says (155 member(s) have cast votes)

Should this thread die?

  1. Yes, kill it now! (61 votes [39.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.35%

  2. Maybe move it to off-topic? (16 votes [10.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.32%

  3. No, let it live until its natural death! (78 votes [50.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.32%

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#4996 User is offline   Yuglooc

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(whiskthecat @ Dec 23 2007, 10:39 PM) View Post

QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Dec 23 2007, 03:36 PM) View Post

2.Dependancy hell is pure hell if the machine aint entirely open
3.the machine did not support Deb arm repos. So a recompile would be needed, and then again, the gp2x didn't support almost any of the needed libs, so those would have t be fixed as well.

Luckily these aren't issues with the Pandora correct?

Correct. The Deb (installation) file will also install any other program or library needed for your program to work.

#4997 User is offline   MWeston

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE(Stealth Bagel @ Dec 23 2007, 01:06 PM) View Post

That's why I said the resistor should only be adjustable to within the operational voltage range of the OMAP3. If adding one resistor would make manufacturing difficult, this device would never get built at all.... tongue.gif Either way a software control would be far more ideal. This is pretty commonplace in PDAs so it's probably not out of the question to implement it here.

Okay, I wanted to make sure this was public information on TI's site before commenting:

http://focus.ti.com/...+PR+smartreflex

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SmartReflex technologies are a broad range of intelligent and adaptive hardware and software techniques that dynamically control voltage, frequency and power based on device activity, modes of operation and temperature


The voltage can be changed in software so you never have to bring out your soldering iron and favorite carbon pencil wink.gif

#4998 User is offline   zacaj

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 11:09 PM

YOu should advertize:
More RAM than the PS3

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE(zacaj @ Dec 23 2007, 11:09 PM) View Post

YOu should advertize:
More RAM than the PS3

...except that would be false advertising. The PS3 has two sticks of 256MB each, totalling 512MB of RAM. The Pandi has 1Gb of ram, or 128MB. 128MB is LOWER than 512MB.

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Dec 23 2007, 03:41 PM) View Post

Correct. The Deb (installation) file will also install any other program or library needed for your program to work.

Wow, impressive. Could this work over wifi? Also what about controls, its not like I can just grab the ARM firefox package and expect it to fit the Pandora's controls and screen resolution or can that be fixed with a library?

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE(atomicthumbs @ Dec 23 2007, 08:01 PM) View Post

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Anything in there will run on the Pandora.

The keys are plastic.



Only when package is ported to armel arch. Which is still unofficial. Only unstable/main tree is there yet

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#5002 User is offline   Yuglooc

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 12:04 AM

QUOTE(whiskthecat @ Dec 24 2007, 12:18 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Dec 23 2007, 03:41 PM) View Post

Correct. The Deb (installation) file will also install any other program or library needed for your program to work.

Wow, impressive. Could this work over wifi? Also what about controls, its not like I can just grab the ARM firefox package and expect it to fit the Pandora's controls and screen resolution or can that be fixed with a library?

That is generally handled by the window manager, and hence, that would not be a problem.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 12:14 AM

QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Dec 23 2007, 06:04 PM) View Post

That is generally handled by the window manager, and hence, that would not be a problem.

Man, the Pandora just keeps getting better and better. biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE(atomicthumbs @ Dec 23 2007, 03:01 PM) View Post

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Anything in there will run on the Pandora.

The keys are plastic.

Good to know that the keys are plastic. Would all those packages still run though? I thought because of the architecture that there would have to be special packages. For example, I can run ubuntu on my PS3 but that doesn't mean I can install any debian package. I have to find special packages that will install on PPC.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 08:37 PM

The archetecture does indeed have to be the same. Anything on there that has an ARM binary will run though, which is quite a large chunk of it. Or so I am told smile.gif

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 10:45 PM

This thread has been replaced by a forum. I don't mind it hanging around for historical reasons, but its purpose is over and done. Can it please be locked?

Thanks!

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 01:40 AM

Is it possible Pandora can come with a digital joystick add on? a d-pad is all well and good for consoles but not very authentic for arcade games. The gp2x joystick was crap but at least it was a joystick and you got that arcade feel when playing games in mame.

The gp2x screen was nice how does this one compare to the pandora? Is it bigger? I liked the gp2x mk1 screen with the scanlines and would like if it would be possible to add scanlines to for a more retro look.

This post has been edited by Hirolaser: 25 December 2007 - 01:43 AM


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Posted 25 December 2007 - 03:10 AM

QUOTE(Hirolaser @ Dec 24 2007, 08:40 PM) View Post

Is it possible Pandora can come with a digital joystick add on? a d-pad is all well and good for consoles but not very authentic for arcade games. The gp2x joystick was crap but at least it was a joystick and you got that arcade feel when playing games in mame.

The gp2x screen was nice how does this one compare to the pandora? Is it bigger? I liked the gp2x mk1 screen with the scanlines and would like if it would be possible to add scanlines to for a more retro look.

It should also come with dirty buttons (with the sticky dirt already installed), lots of scratches on the case and on the screen, and some sort of cigar smoke generator, for that fully authentic arcade experience. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 09:31 AM

Joysticks were also used for the many hundreds of action games and adventures etc. of great Computers like IBM PC, C64, Amiga, Atari etc. so if we can have a keyboard, d-pad and analog sticks why not a digital joystick? after all this is supposed to be the ultimate emulaton handheld isn't it? It would also give people a choice of controls, to play games with d-pad or joystick.

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE(Hirolaser @ Dec 25 2007, 01:31 AM) View Post

Joysticks were also used for the many hundreds of action games and adventures etc. of great Computers like IBM PC, C64, Amiga, Atari etc. so if we can have a keyboard, d-pad and analog sticks why not a digital joystick? after all this is supposed to be the ultimate emulaton handheld isn't it? It would also give people a choice of controls, to play games with d-pad or joystick.


It's a Linux computer with USB ports. In other words, any USB HID gamepads/etc. will work without needing any drivers. Plug four of them into a hub, then into your Pandora, and it into your TV, and you can get your Gauntlet on in style!

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