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[MaGaIn]

The Pandora will not be able to compete with the GP2X for the following reasons

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

I don't want to be negative, but....

[Alex.]

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

These two are the funniest

[Orkie]

I'm actually getting the impression that GPH are running out of cash very quickly, and the Pandora name can be used as long as it isn't another radio with the same name.

[yaustar]

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

The creators are the guys who are currently selling the GP2X in UK and Europe so logic dictates they are the ones who are going to sell them. Given their retail contacts, it wouldn't be too hard to find someone in the US to do the same.

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

You have no evidence or fact to back this up. For we know, the creators could have the backing of heavy investors in the product.

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

The GP2X is $120?

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

Given their past track record, I doubt they do anything near to the quality and attention to the usage of the product then the creators of the Pandora. Also note that it is going to be the software that drives the products in this niche. With a lot of developers backing (at least I think they are) the Pandora, who is left for GPH?

More to the point, who is going to sell the next GPH handheld if Craigix and EvilDragon (who are the two biggest retailers in Europe) in other parts of the world. Craigix and EvilDragon are certainly not going to sell a competitor to they own product, right?

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

I highly doubt that Pandora is trademarked or copyrighted as a product name yet given the fact it is part of Greek Methodology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora .

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

Such as? The GP2X is a bunch of off the shelf parts and unless they have a patent for the device and finds that Pandora infringes on it, they can't really do anything.

[Magic Sam]

The Pandora will not be able to compete with the GP2X for the following reasons

I don't think the main goal of the OpenPandora is to compete with the GP2X

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

I can't remember how many GP2X were sold at the beginning...

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

How can you tell ? In my opinion GPH are broke and near bankrupt

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

GP2X can't do one third of the things the Pandora will allow us to do, so there is no reason to compare them

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

I strongly doubt about that

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

Pandora is a name from the mythology, and can't be copyrighted, correct me if I'm wrong

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

Why ?

I don't want to be negative, but....

You are

[Sphinxter]

Funny stuff but hardly realistic.

[Clad]

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

To be more correct : The first batch is going to be of 3000 units. Probably more than the first GP2X batch.

For that kind of system, 3000 is not so bad.

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

I wouldn't bet on that. I bet it's quite the contrary actually.

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

The iphone is sold for way more than a 3 years old nokia too. Even if they are not so different product, one can do way more things than the other, and thus has an higher price tag. For what I know, the iphone is selling pretty well.

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

Sure, and if the Lada was redesigned, Ferrari would be done.

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

Do you have any idea how copyright laws work ? As long as you don't make a radio station named pandora, you're ok to do whatever you want with the same.

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

I'm not sure GPH isn't even aware there is other emerged surfaces outside of korea... let alone human being or consoles.

[GunPei2X]

Where has this mythology about GPH being a huge, deep-pocket company sprung from? It's quite amusing.

[Magic Sam]

Sure, and if the Lada was redesigned, Ferrari would be done.

I have a joke (french humour, caution) : how to obtain new parts for your old Lada ? Follow an other Lada

Bye, have a nice evening !

Magic Sam

Edited by Magic Sam, 29 December 2007 - 07:30 PM.

[skeezix]

Aside from ther fact he has no idea how copyright/trademark/etc work, let us add... 'pandora.com', even if it did infringe anything (and it does not), let us rememebr how many countries there are to operate in

jeff

[zaffercharles]

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

Only 3000? I'd better offer a substantial incentive to get hold of one then

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

Tinpot little company that don't know when they're on to a good thing afaic.

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

And so it should be, it's not exactly comparable to Pandora aside from it plays emulated games to some degree

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

maybe taking the controls off completely and making it a mobile phone or something even more ridiculous, yeah

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

It's not like they're copying the same format and as others said it can't be copyrighted I don't think.

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

They haven't got a clue. There's more chance of them creating a Pandora Beater themselves than even finding out, let alone having a leg to stand on and doing something about it.

[atomicthumbs]

bahahaha

[imec]

I am so going to tea bag your dead body.

[DaveC]

The Pandora will not be able to compete with the GP2X for the following reasons
I don't want to be negative, but....

You know I consider myself kind of liberal and really don't care if someone wants to experiment with drugs in the privacy of their own home. Posts like this however, may change my mind

[Amon_Re]

The Pandora will not be able to compete with the GP2X for the following reasons

1. Only about 3000 consoles are going to be made at the beginning and it appears as though the creators do not know who (if anyone) will sell them.

Mail Order solves that issue, but if the device is solid enough, it will be imported, just like the gp2x was.

2. GPH has far deeper pockets than the creators of the Pandora system

And Nintendo has deeper pockets then GPH, oh noes!!!

3. GPH sells the GP2X for about 200 USD less than the Pandora is going to be sold for

So? If it's works well enough i couldn't care less about 200 USD, 200 is mere pocketmoney these days

4. GPH is able to and most likely will do a GP2X redesign in the next two years that will run the Pandora

Feel free to wait two more years while the rest of us games on

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

Trademark law doesn't work that way, different fields of use

6. GPH will most likely have lawyers look into the Pandora and find something wrong

FUD, Absolute FUD, there is nothing of the gp2x going into the Pandora, and even if the Pandora used the same bloody chips and even the same kernel, the chips are retail, the kernel is open-source, guess what that means? Yes, they can do jack shit about it

I don't want to be negative, but....

But you felt the need to create FUD, hey, why not, everyone loves a good flamewar, no?

5. The name Pandora is most likely reserved by the online radio website pandora.com, which may result in legal issues for the creators

Pandora is a name from the mythology, and can't be copyrighted, correct me if I'm wrong

Actually, you are wrong, because it's not copyright law here that matters, but trademark law, and since these both are different markets (radio vs handheld) they can both coexist without eighter one being able to tell the other side to freck off.

And yes, you can trademark a mythological name, after all, Microsoft even managed to trademark Windows!

Edited by Amon_Re, 30 December 2007 - 03:21 PM.