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[CronoTriggerfan]

Agreed x100. If this isn't out by August, no matter how great it is, it's iControlpad and iPod Touch for me.

Well if the iControlpad is handled like the Pandora expect delays.

But see, I've already got a Touch; on-screen controls and Fire Emblem/Advance Wars will hold me over 'till it comes out.

[Kloplop321]

getting old now Unfathomable Depths.

But I still would want it out quickly but NOT with 1mm nubs.

[CandidStan]

I'll take 5!

[Unfathomable Depths]

Yea.

Ridiculous thread though.

'I'll buy it next year for double the price'
'I wont'
'Its vapourware anyway'

Then I weigh in with the thongs...

[quasist]

I would gleefully wait for conceivably the greatest gadget ever.

Why not hjack the existing shipment of panda's instead?
Bring more C4 to CraigTek Labz. The security is not that tight :JCDenton:

[CandidStan]

Better yet thermite.

[second exodous]

I personally don't have any problem with waiting. If it takes until the holidays to get it that is fine with me. Not that I'm saying I wouldn't like it sooner, but if that what it takes to have the hardware in order then I'm all for it. It looks like it's pretty much ironed out though, so we won't have to wait. I'm still using my GP2X so I'm in no rush.

Thanx,
Stan

[Svartalf]

If this thing isn't out by August, I'm jumping ship. There are plenty of other things that are coming out that will be just as good / better for the same price / cheaper. Nvidia is leading the pack with those. In 6 months, the Pandora won't be leading anything - it will be following. It might still be the only system with game controls - but, god, how hard is it to plug in a USB controller or buy and mod a PSP? If this isn't out by Sept. Waiting a year is not worth it. And, yeah, since the initial release dates were Feb / Mar of 08 - six months from the August-at-the-soonest release date now would make it over a year delayed.

Considering that NVidia's part isn't faster than the OMAP (Keep in mind, they're using an ARM11, not a Cortex)- they're not leading the pack save with possibly a better GPU. I'll say it again for everyone- a faster GPU, with higher fillrate doesn't do you JACK if you don't have a CPU to keep it filled up. Sitting idle does you not a lick of good. Having NVidia in the space is good. What they have right now isn't competitive with what we're hoping to see with the Pandora- honest. It's about half as powerful on everything but the GPU, and it remains to be seen if the GPU's any better than the SGX we've got in hand on our SOC.

Having said this, there's some potential competitors that might show on the horizon in about 8-10 months from now that might fill the role- but nobody out there right now has the same story that I know of and I do track the market and have a few connections.

At some point, you've got to stop tinkering and ship the damn thing.

Uh, Chad, they had a smallish setback that pushed it back a month with the shipper effing up boards (mine, amongst them...). We'd be on track, I suspect, if they hadn't have had that little problem.

[andyB911]

I've got a conference in September, and I was really looking forward to showing off my Pandora - but I might just have to "show off" something else. An iPhone 3G, a N810, a Nvidia Tegra 650... Something.

Craig - did you hear...? Chad has a conference in September!! Stop dilly-dallying and get your skates on or you'll lose a sale

PS Chad - what kind conference is this that you'll be impressing the other delegates with your portable hardware?

[Sphinxter]

How out of date will those thongs be though?

Hahahaha think I pulled something on that one hehehe you killing me.

[PolloLoco]

I have to agree with Chad in regards to the possibility of competitors emerging. For different reasons, the Nvidia Tegra has to be considered a solid competitor with it's own advantages. Forgetting the graphics chip - the Tegra features HDMI output, with early models capable of putting out 720P video, and later (larger?) devices able to handle 1080P.

If the Pandora's delayed too long, more details about the Tegra devices will emerge that may tempt other users like me. People have to consider that when this device was announced, the release was supposed to be Spring of 2008. Though no official dates were provided - you have to consider that a significant setback with respect to release.

[Svartalf]

Hmm btw I hear Qualcomm has a chip called Snapdragon that incorporates AMD's Imageon ES 2.0 capable graphics core?

http://www.engadgetm...use-snapdragon/

If they deliver the things, I'll be concerned. They're the only one that's actually got the Cortex series in their SOC plans for this spin of things. IF they get the thing taped out (not having cores to demo and claiming they're prototypes, when they're not doesn't inspire confidence...) in a timely manner, and IF they get the drivers going they might have something to be "concerned" about.

To be sure, they're one of the ones I was alluding to- but without silicon when they demoed last means they're at least 6 months behind where TI is right now with their stuff, hence the comment I made on the subject.

Based on the latest Blog post, I should be seeing my board here shortly and we probably are more on track for a one month later release than planned timeframe. I'll know more when the MK0 lands in my hands...

[chad78]

PS Chad - what kind conference is this that you'll be impressing the other delegates with your portable hardware?

An Internet conference. - no, not a conference that takes place on the Internet - a conference about the Internet.

Uh, Chad, they had a smallish setback that pushed it back a month with the shipper effing up boards (mine, amongst them...). We'd be on track, I suspect, if they hadn't have had that little problem.

The OP of this thread wasn't talking about small set backs - he is asking for *MORE* delays to tinker with shit. No. No more tinkering. Get it working and get it out the door. No more polls asking would you be willing to wait for feature X - no more can we add option Y - no more well, there's coming out with a bigger display in 2 months....

Screw it. It's fine the way it is, ship the damn thing.

[Svartalf]

An Internet conference. - no, not a conference that takes place on the Internet - a conference about the Internet.

Heh... Which one would this be and where?