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#1 mazza558

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:24 PM

MWeston posted this image earlier:

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With this info:

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It fits, but it had to be made thicker to prevent brittle areas in the cups holding the carbon pads. Therefore, it isn't very usable as it takes a lot of force to press buttons. As far as form is concerned, it fits beautifully. As far as more complete prototypes (CNC'd) go, I won't have anything until the New Year. I had to drive over to the FedEx depot to pick this one up myself before they closed up for the holidays or I wouldn't even have had this one! smile.gif


We're very...slowly... getting there.

Expect to see a final unit in June 2010 tongue.gif

Edited by mazza558, 27 December 2008 - 03:25 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:28 PM

I has a happy biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Edited by aaron11193, 27 December 2008 - 03:29 PM.


#3 Yigguth

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:33 PM

I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE(Yigguth @ Dec 27 2008, 03:33 PM) View Post

I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls


I was wondering about the D-pad - how's that thing going to actually move in the space it's got?

#5 aaron11193

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE(mazza558 @ Dec 28 2008, 01:35 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Yigguth @ Dec 27 2008, 03:33 PM) View Post

I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls


I was wondering about the D-pad - how's that thing going to actually move in the space it's got?


It's still a prototype, right?

Positive attitude, guys. This project is in good hands biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE(mali @ Dec 27 2008, 06:13 AM) View Post

QUOTE('EvilDragon')
Aaaalso, hier nochmals (hatte es zwar oben schon mal geschrieben, aber das wird wohl immer überlesen):

Die Tasten lassen sich schwer drücken, weil es sich um einen PROTOTYPEN handelt, NICHT, weil wir da einen Fehler haben.
Das ist produktionstechnisch so. Solche Tasten drücken sich ja mithilfe von sehr dünnen Wänden (bei uns genau 0,2mm). Sieht man gut, wenn man mal einen Taschenrechner aufschraubt
(den hab ich als Vorlage genommen). Mit dem fertig erstellten Werkzeug sind die Wände dann auch exakt so dünn - bei der Prototypherstellung läßt sich das aber nicht so genau einstellen, daher wären solche Wände eher dünner (und reißen) oder dicker.
Der Prototyp dieser Matte ist dafür geeignet, zu testen, ob alles ins Gehäuse passt, ob der Abstand zur Platine passt, etc.
Und das tut er.
Heißt: Jetzt kann das Werkzeug hergestellt werden - und das läßt sich dann auch drücken.

Thema Bedruckung: Wir sind am Überlegen, ob wir eine individuelle Bedruckung (Deutsch, Englisch, Türkisch, Spanisch) machen sollen - und da schaut es im Moment recht gut aus, da die Bedruckung NACH der Mattenherstellung stattfindet, also von den Kosten her durchaus möglich ist smile.gif


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The keys are hard to press, because it is a prototype and not because we made a mistake. This is caused by production necessities.
Those keys are able to be pressed because of their very thin walls(in this case exactly 0.2mm). You can see that, when you disassemble
a pocket calculator for example(which I took as reference).
When the tool(the part of the molding machine in which the hot fluid rubber is injected) is ready, the walls will be exactly that thin -
in a prototype-process it isn't possible to adjust it that exactly, so the walls would be thinner(and break) or thicker.
This prototype is adapted for testing if it fits into the case and if the distance to the PCB is right etc. And it does fit.
This means, now the tool can be made and the keys will be pressable.
Regarding the key-printings: We think about making individual printings(German, English, Turkish, Spanish) -
it looks good at the moment, because the printing is done after the fabrication of the mat, so it would be possible regarding kosts smile.gif



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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:30 PM

Then I sure hope they make Norwegian (or universal scandinavian) prints!

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:41 PM

Nice prototype. Seems the Pandora won't be shipped until late next month or early the month after. I was off on the guess.

Edited by adamorjames, 27 December 2008 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:42 PM

I'm cacking in my pants.........

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(Yigguth @ Dec 27 2008, 08:33 AM) View Post
I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls


You probably hope that a Pandora light(lite?) will be released. For me if the keyboard doesn't work then I can only do about 10% of what I want to do with it.

But it sounds like this isn't a problem anyway, just another step to getting the Pandora correct.

Edited by second exodous, 27 December 2008 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 05:44 PM

It's one of the old prototype cases. One that matches the new 'redesign' will have to follow before anything else happens...

Edited by Asmo, 27 December 2008 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE(mazza558 @ Dec 27 2008, 04:35 PM) View Post

QUOTE(Yigguth @ Dec 27 2008, 03:33 PM) View Post

I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls


I was wondering about the D-pad - how's that thing going to actually move in the space it's got?


The DPad is my biggest concern. So few controllers have gotten it right in my opinion. I only really like the SNES one and a well-broken in Playstation one. The litmus test for me is whether it's easy to pull off the fireball 95%+ of the time in SF2. I find it hard to find the diagonals on many dpads. Of course it'll be easy to just plug in an actual SNES pad, got a convertor, and the pad is around here somewhere biggrin.gif But it'll be nicer if I didn't have to bother.

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:07 PM

Seems there must be some news I haven't read... Last I heard, Craig was saying that the reorder date would be as close to the shipping date as possible, and now Chip has told us that the reorder day could be very soon indeed. I believe Craig has also said that they'd like to have all the original orders out by the end of January.

I know that dates have a way of getting pushed back, but I'm keeping my optimism until I find news to the contrary. No news doesn't mean a lack of progress - it may mean just the opposite. pandora2ut4.png smile.gif

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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:21 PM

yeah... that looks like a really prototype-ish case. VERY rough. I wouldn't like it if I got a laptop with a case that rough tongue.gif


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Posted 27 December 2008 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE(second exodous @ Dec 27 2008, 10:49 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Yigguth @ Dec 27 2008, 08:33 AM) View Post
I don't care if the keyboard sucks. I'm just worried about the gaming controls


You probably hope that a Pandora light(lite?) will be released. For me if the keyboard doesn't work then I can only do about 10% of what I want to do with it.

But it sounds like this isn't a problem anyway, just another step to getting the Pandora correct.

+1

I intend on using it as a mobile dev/testing platform, which requires a decent typing experience.