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#16 lulzfish

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 04:32 AM

So I can't compile my own Pandora stylus?

RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAA-

Well, at least it runs open software, right? You take what you can get.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 05:14 AM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 05:26 AM) View Post
As nice as it would have been to copy an existing stylus for easy off-the-shelf replacements, it is too dangerous from a patent perspective. Nintendo and other companies patent their stylus designs so nobody can make knockoffs without paying a licensing fee. The Pandora stylus, like styli for other devices, is proprietary.
I really shouldn't be surprised that people patent making a pen-shaped plastic object in a certain specific shape, but yet I am. Guess I'm not cynical enough yet.

#18 fusion_power

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 02:15 AM) View Post

It's plastic. Replacements will be available to order.

how long will be the final Pandora Stylus? Looks a little bit small onto the Video. For Example, I find the NDS Stylus ways to short for my big hands.


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE(fusion_power @ Jan 30 2009, 10:21 AM) View Post

how long will be the final Pandora Stylus? Looks a little bit small onto the Video. For Example, I find the NDS Stylus ways to short for my big hands.

My opinion is that it looks big enough. Looks nearly same long as Pandora wide and acceptable thickness. I order or make metal one anyway.

#20 Kyosys

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE(lulzfish @ Jan 30 2009, 05:32 AM) View Post

So I can't compile my own Pandora stylus?

RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAA-

Well, at least it runs open software, right? You take what you can get.

Oh no, you can make it. But only for educational purposes

#21 Chip

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE(fusion_power @ Jan 30 2009, 04:21 AM) View Post
how long will be the final Pandora Stylus?
Dimensions are 100mm long by 5mm diameter.


#22 Monk

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 01:15 AM) View Post

It's plastic. Replacements will be available to order.


What happened to/was the point of the poll? I could have sworn "metal but idelaly black metal" was the clear winner among voters sad.gif

Edited by Monk, 30 January 2009 - 10:50 AM.


#23 Gruso

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:54 AM

The poll was started by a forum member, not a dev team member. No one ever said it would be made according to the poll results.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE(Eniko @ Jan 30 2009, 07:14 AM) View Post

I really shouldn't be surprised that people patent making a pen-shaped plastic object in a certain specific shape, but yet I am. Guess I'm not cynical enough yet.


I just went to an electronicsstore lately and found out that sony patented the button symbols.
If you look at ps-controller-clones you will see that they eather have disrupted lines on the triangle & stuff or just numbers. -> crazy

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:57 PM

QUOTE(Eniko @ Jan 30 2009, 12:14 AM) View Post
I really shouldn't be surprised that people patent making a pen-shaped plastic object in a certain specific shape, but yet I am. Guess I'm not cynical enough yet.

It's not just that you're surprised, it's that you care. When you see companies pull enough of this that you honestly just don't care what they do, then you'll be cynical enough.

QUOTE(peca @ Jan 30 2009, 04:48 AM) View Post
My opinion is that it looks big enough. Looks nearly same long as Pandora wide and acceptable thickness. I order or make metal one anyway.

My opinion is that MWeston has really big hands.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE(Gruso @ Jan 30 2009, 10:54 AM) View Post

The poll was started by a forum member, not a dev team member. No one ever said it would be made according to the poll results.


Indeed - for some reason I thought that the post that prompted the poll was made by a dev - my mistake. It would be a LOT easier if we could instantly see who was OpenPandora and who was not via a "uniform" avatar.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(WizardStan @ Jan 30 2009, 02:57 PM) View Post

My opinion is that MWeston has really big hands.

I don't think so, because:
QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 12:06 PM) View Post

Dimensions are 100mm long by 5mm diameter.

and if I measure my finger in the position he's holding the stylus I come to aprox. 80mm the tip sticks out a bit so let's say that's the missing 20mm. -> he doesn't have big hands but the pandora is damn! small. (or ofcourse I've got big hands too biggrin.gif )

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 11:06 AM) View Post

QUOTE(fusion_power @ Jan 30 2009, 04:21 AM) View Post
how long will be the final Pandora Stylus?
Dimensions are 100mm long by 5mm diameter.

OK, I took my Loox N560 (metal with plastic tip and top (I mean opposite side against tip - Sorry, I don't know how name it right in English :/ ), stylus and measure it IPB Image:
  • diameter: 3 or 3.5 mm (I have plastic ruller only)
  • long: 105 mm
My personal experience that it is:
  • tiny, should be thicker
  • short, should by longer
  • usable, but not very comfortable
I don't know, if there is something, that block longer stylus. If not, then it can be almost 140 mm long (as Pandora width). Hole for it can be symmetrical through Pandora's body allowing left handed users inserting from left side :-) Yes, I know that design is done and case go to manufacturing. Take this as my advice for future batch and modders :-) I'll be satisfied by arriving Pandora itself, stylus is just bonus.
/ Maybe time to buy ballpen combined with stylus.

EDIT: I just measure some ballpen refill that has size that I feel like comfortable dimensions stylus and it is 115 mm long and 5 or 5.5 mm diameter. So if it is possible I'll drill or cut deeper hole and make little longer stylus as Pandora mod. Or maybe not, as I'm lazy man ;-)

Edited by peca, 30 January 2009 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 30 2009, 05:06 AM) View Post

QUOTE(fusion_power @ Jan 30 2009, 04:21 AM) View Post
how long will be the final Pandora Stylus?
Dimensions are 100mm long by 5mm diameter.


That seems just right. I'm glad it's not the same thickness of a needle like some PDA styli have. Should minimize cramping. cool.gif


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE(peca @ Jan 30 2009, 08:58 AM) View Post

I don't know, if there is something, that block longer stylus. If not, then it can be almost 140 mm long (as Pandora width). Hole for it can be symmetrical through Pandora's body allowing left handed users inserting from left side :-)

The stylus has to stop before it slams into the volume wheel headphone jack. smile.gif Oops, it's over top of the volume wheel.

Edited by MWeston, 30 January 2009 - 06:44 PM.