[Rygiz]

I did a search, but I couldn''t seem to find it (bad keywords?), oh well.

I don''t want to get a speculation thread going or anything, I''m just wondering if there''s been any official word on stuff that will/might be installed on the Pandora when shipped. Clearly there''d be a media player and junk...But what about GIMP (since we saw it working), a specific document viewer, Firefox, etc. I''d imagine they''re trying to keep it to a minimal, no one likes bloat ware.


Just tossing this out there...Sorry for speculation bait *cringes*

[SONY]

A basic program with specific emulators is a definite, mate.

[Izolo]

A basic program with specific emulators is a definite, mate. \:\)

I doubt any emulators will shipped with the Pandora.

[Kramy]

A basic program with specific emulators is a definite, mate. \:\)

I doubt any emulators will shipped with the Pandora.

You''re right. You''ll have to download them yourself.

[.Gogeta§§J4BR.]

preinstalled apps would be sweet for sure. firefox is a must.
but an easy-to-use repository apps installer would make sense

[skeezix]

We''re building a system to make app installation stupidly easy.

We''re still banging it out, but assuming it all comes together and works (and it should, we''re nearly there) .. you''ll download special apps in a bundle, a .pnd file. Inside that will be a directory structure and so on for the app to live, but users won''t care (unless they unpack it into a directory.)

So an entire app (all its data etc) can be downloaded as one file, dropped onto an SD card. Stick the card into Pandora, and te launcher shows the app in its category. Tap to run and it just works. No unzip, no set up.. just download and run. Piece of cake. (You are of course able to unpack it, futz with it, put it in anywhere you want on sD or in NAND, etc.)

We also intend to build the OS in such a way that you can just use Angstron packages if you want to, but thats suboptimal. (I can explain why if you want.)

Anyway, its going to be easier than on the gp2x, which was not really rocket science either

We or I will start writing up some docs on the wiki soon, so folks can get an idea how it wll/does work.

(For devs.. it is pretty easy to pack up the files into a .pnd; trivial on linux, a little work on Windows.)

jeff

[Alpha2]

What (if anything) come with the standard linux package? I''d say that''s all you can expect to be on the system when you get it. anything else might be one a disk with it aside from things that would probably be illegal to sell with it.

[Zeno Arrow]

@skeezix
That sounds unbelievably brilliant!

This post has been edited by Zeno Arrow: 20 February 2009 - 03:23 AM

[socket]

Yeah...

<drooling>

[Tom`]

What (if anything) come with the standard linux package? I''''d say that''''s all you can expect to be on the system when you get it. anything else might be one a disk with it aside from things that would probably be illegal to sell with it.

Well, there is no "standard linux package" - Linux is just a kernel, it is up to you (the packager, at least) to add stuff. I believe that in the case of the Pandora we will have the standard GNU tools, configuration utilities for WiFi and such, plus Matchbox and the GMenu GUI, with probably some kind of file browser (rox? or is this functionality built into GMenu?). I would imagine there would be some basic utilities like a text editor and maybe a web browser, but I do not know of any specific information about included software...

[WizardStan]

put it in anywhere you want on sD or in NAND, etc.)

Can you expand on that a bit? Craig once said, long ago, that NAND was going to be off limits. The reasoning being that you didn''t want to do any futzing with OS upgrades: just reflash the entire NAND and be done; this meant any software installed to the NAND would be wiped out.
Like I said, that was many months ago (going on 6 or 8, I think) but I''d be interested in knowing if that''s no longer the case. It would definitely make things much easier to install regularly used apps to the NAND and just keep data on the SD cards, but I understood where Craig was coming from originally.

[Zeno Arrow]

put it in anywhere you want on sD or in NAND, etc.)

Can you expand on that a bit? Craig once said, long ago, that NAND was going to be off limits. The reasoning being that you didn''''''''t want to do any futzing with OS upgrades: just reflash the entire NAND and be done; this meant any software installed to the NAND would be wiped out.
Like I said, that was many months ago (going on 6 or 8, I think) but I''''''''d be interested in knowing if that''''''''s no longer the case. It would definitely make things much easier to install regularly used apps to the NAND and just keep data on the SD cards, but I understood where Craig was coming from originally.

The NAND storage has never been off limits, don''''t be so over dramatic. If you want to install apps to NAND you can do. Probably want to avoid putting a swap partition on it but that''''s about it. Maybe you could use drive partitioning if you want to keep apps on the NAND after copying OS upgrades to it. Linux, AFAIK, sees drive partitions as part of one combined file system (e.g. doesn''''t matter whether your home directory is stored on partition A or partition B\). You might need some tweaking to get apps running as before, but some clever soul here might work out some way of automating whatever needs doing.

This post has been edited by Zeno Arrow: 20 February 2009 - 05:54 AM

[tonsofquestions]

We also intend to build the OS in such a way that you can just use Angstron packages if you want to, but thats suboptimal. (I can explain why if you want.)

OK, I''ll bite. Why is this bad?

[Svartalf]

OK, I''ll bite. Why is this bad?

You're going to be limited to putting things on the NAND and only on the NAND because it doesn't really work nicely for something that's removable. For some applications this makes sense- but you're going to have a limit to what will go on at any given time.

[peca]

We also intend to build the OS in such a way that you can just use Angstron packages if you want to, but thats suboptimal. (I can explain why if you want.)

I want. Can you please?
I really like to have some good system for installing SW directly from repository on the net. I like Synaptic on Ubuntu, so somethink similiar will be cute - even some command line tool, such as apt-get or so.

OK, I''''ll bite. Why is this bad?

You''re going to be limited to putting things on the NAND and only on the NAND because it doesn''t really work nicely for something that''s removable. For some applications this makes sense- but you''re going to have a limit to what will go on at any given time.

I hope I not limited to install SW from Ångström repository only to NAND. o_O I rather install it on SD card.