[SirAileron]

If it doesn't materialize by January, I'm putting in more money.

The little guy typically needs more help than the hulking behemoth.

This post has been edited by SirAileron: 18 September 2009 - 02:41 PM

[puppydee]

Burn them, burn them all :rolleyes:

edit: forgot the comma :)

This post has been edited by puppydee: 18 September 2009 - 02:51 PM

[sold]

All this talk of bottle-necks is making me thirsty.

[craigix]

To be worried now, when everything is coming to a neat conclusion is a little bewildering.

Michael got the new keymat, the keys are perfect, but it's a good thing we got a set of samples as the rubber isn't quite soft enough, after a while the Dpad gives some ache on the thumb, so the 4000 are going to be ~20% softer.

I know I keep repeating but it's little things like that which make all the difference on a device you will likely be using for at least 2 years.

[Exophase]

The level of tweaking going into this is really great. I hope we can see pictures of the keymat soon :B

[borgqueenx]

craigix, on 18 September 2009 - 05:35 PM, said:

To be worried now, when everything is coming to a neat conclusion is a little bewildering.

Michael got the new keymat, the keys are perfect, but it's a good thing we got a set of samples as the rubber isn't quite soft enough, after a while the Dpad gives some ache on the thumb, so the 4000 are going to be ~20% softer.

I know I keep repeating but it's little things like that which make all the difference on a device you will likely be using for at least 2 years.

i just hope the typing goes as smooth as pressing a key on a notebook. (in means of pushing the button, not how easy it will go)

[gadgetoid]

craigix, on 18 September 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

I know I keep repeating but it's little things like that which make all the difference on a device you will likely be using for at least 2 years.

Perhaps you should have made your thumbs ~20% harder? Much easier!

[DroneB Dev]

thats easy, got a nice bottle of crazy glue around?

apply some nice 3-4 times yo get hard fingers fo real'

doesnt like the idea?

go buy some rubber gloves and cook em in the oven for a while and voila!

XD

i didnt get what craig meant

is the new keymat 20% softer, or still needs 20% more softness since it is just a simple sample.
didnt they say all the batch was sent?

[Monk]

EvilDragon, on 18 September 2009 - 10:37 AM, said:

Bosbeetle, on 18 September 2009 - 11:29 AM, said:

Are speakers, LCD screens and nubs also stocked somewhere? And is everything ready for assembly?

Just asking?

Yep.

So the nubs have been updated with the fixed code then?

Pleng, on 18 September 2009 - 01:25 PM, said:

EvilDragon, on 18 September 2009 - 09:18 AM, said:

Well, seeing that the boards are here and working and the only thing left is the case (which will be finished just before October or middle of October, depending on if the Chinese factory can finish the mould just before the chines holidays)

So the case has become the cause of delays once more, then? After Craig saying only a few days ago that the production of the boards is now the bottleneck???

The first 100 or so boards are not a bottleneck because they are made and tested - they ARE being held up by the case, in effect. Once the cases are done, if they fit/work then there will be 10,000 of them - and the REST of the boards become the bottleneck as they take longer to populate than the cases do to knock out.

craigix, on 18 September 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

I know I keep repeating but it's little things like that which make all the difference on a device you likely won't be using for at least 2 years.

Sorry. I like the level of attention to detail, but that adjudtment HAD to be made...

;)

[CC_machine]

Xian Long, on 18 September 2009 - 01:19 AM, said:

...you should have waited for the second batch or whatnot when the pandora will...

Funny. We thought we had been waiting a damn long time already.

College people and friends have their iPod touches, PSPs and whatnot, whilst we sit around deviceless and missing £200. I'm sure a fair number of us aren't too happy. Sorry, but that's the reality.

Anyone else remember when computer companies did this? Announce pre-order, get money, then start production of the product. Many of them failed as the tech progressed at such a rapid rate in the 80s and 90s. Any delay over around 6 months or so would've killed it.

OpenPandora are exempt since the device is portable. Damn portability exceptions.

[DroneB Dev]

4000-105=3895 ops

3895/300= 12.983....=>13. days

13/5= 2,6 =>3 ~ 3 weeks (5+2,5+2,+3~+2)=19 days + shipping times.

300/8 Hours/ 60 min.=0.625 hmm

1/0.625 = 1.6 Min

conclusion.

just hope to get it bef Xmas.

[Phawx]

@CC_Machine

I don't think it's portability. Because OMAP 3xxx portable devices are out now. I think it's the unique design that makes all of us wait.

@DroneB

I don't believe they sold 4,000. My guess is it's in the 2,000-2,500 area.

[S-r-ex]

To everybody who is "tired of waiting", here are some words from a Final Fantasy fan: SHUT THE [BLEEP] UP!!! You just have no idea....

This post has been edited by S-r-ex: 18 September 2009 - 07:53 PM

[DroneB Dev]

@ Phawx,

i dk how you know that stuff, but there will be 3000++ for sure after they release the first 105.

i was thinking if the OP Team would diferentiate those who putted the money before the 105 release and those who pay after the 105 release.

[gadgetoid]

CC_machine, on 18 September 2009 - 06:51 PM, said:

College people and friends have their iPod touches, PSPs and whatnot, whilst we sit around deviceless and missing £200.

Deviceless? I find that just a little hard to believe. I can appreciate that you may not have bought something after committing to a Pandora pre-order, but surely you had something before?

Go pick up a Nokia N810, it'll make you appreciate what Open Pandora are trying to put together all the more.