[craigix]

Because I don't own any PSX games I'd rather leave that to someone else.

I do own an N64 + Games and those are what I'd like to demo.

The cases will probably arrive with Michael at the weekend if we are lucky. They should be the final ones.

So it looks like units won't ship to customers in large numbers until (probably) after Christmas.

I'm sure Michael will make up more units, but it's going to be small numbers before Christmas, probably for devs.

When you get your Pandora and see just how perfected it is you will understand the delays.

Hopefully several of you will drop by my house to try one out before then.

[Eisner]

I am getting a head ache from going through all these threads..
Just so I am clear with things.

1) We are waiting for the China Plastics Company to ship out a corrected mold before mass production of the cases can start, right ?
2) Any update to Question #1
3) Only 5 final production units have been made ?
4) Only SPECIAL people have those 5 said units ?
5) This has been a huge conspiracy in order for the 5 said people to get their pandora units...
6) I know that #5 is not true..
7) Is # 5 enough of a reason for Canada to declare war against England ?? I mean really, what did England really give us anyways... The Monarchy, The Imperial Measurement System ???
:lol: :lol:

David

[Awakening]

Today my friend had a NDS with him, he put it on the table and played with his stylus. As I understand it the screen of the NDS doesn't go back as far as the Pandora's. I just want to see if the hinge can stand someone play using the stylus with the screen in a 3/4 open position. Lying in bed the full back position will be great.

[Dead1nside]

craigix, on 15 December 2009 - 10:43 PM, said:

Because I don't own any PSX games I'd rather leave that to someone else.

I do own an N64 + Games and those are what I'd like to demo.

The cases will probably arrive with Michael at the weekend if we are lucky. They should be the final ones.

So it looks like units won't ship to customers in large numbers until (probably) after Christmas.

I'm sure Michael will make up more units, but it's going to be small numbers before Christmas, probably for devs.

(snip)

Thanks for the update Craig, I'm sure a new influx of videos will keep us sated until we receive our Pandoras.

[fusion_power]

craigix, on 15 December 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

The Pandora CPU isn't the kind which overheats, it's not an X86 or 'Intel' CPU. It's an ARM.

Please don't forget that WIFI chips can get VERY warm, so is this part checked over a longer time Period?

And how good is the Pandora D-Pad in real? Compared to the F100 D-Stick for example which is the ground why I don't like to play movement-critic games onto the GP2X, Metroid (SNES,GBA) was a nightmare with this stick.
Like mentioned before, are all the known Special moves in Fighting Games possible? Especialy these complicated 360° D-Pad Moves. ^^

[Paradox]

craigix, on 15 December 2009 - 09:43 PM, said:

Because I don't own any PSX games I'd rather leave that to someone else.

I do own an N64 + Games and those are what I'd like to demo.

The cases will probably arrive with Michael at the weekend if we are lucky. They should be the final ones.

So it looks like units won't ship to customers in large numbers until (probably) after Christmas.

I'm sure Michael will make up more units, but it's going to be small numbers before Christmas, probably for devs.

When you get your Pandora and see just how perfected it is you will understand the delays.

Hopefully several of you will drop by my house to try one out before then.

are we no longer looking at 1,000 by xmas then?

[skyeyemachine]

craigix, on 15 December 2009 - 01:43 PM, said:

Because I don't own any PSX games I'd rather leave that to someone else.

I do own an N64 + Games and those are what I'd like to demo.

The cases will probably arrive with Michael at the weekend if we are lucky. They should be the final ones.

So it looks like units won't ship to customers in large numbers until (probably) after Christmas.

I'm sure Michael will make up more units, but it's going to be small numbers before Christmas, probably for devs.

When you get your Pandora and see just how perfected it is you will understand the delays.

Hopefully several of you will drop by my house to try one out before then.

Regarding Nintendo games, if you have it, I would be interested to know how 'The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask' handles on the machine. I've been wondering if its need for an expantion cartridge and all that implies put it out of the Pandora's league.

I'm really looking forwards to getting the final unit in my hands, considering how excited you seem about it, Craig. :)

[greendots]

The holidays will put a halt to assembly in texas until after the new year I assume...
Is it going to be possible to get pandora 'kits' sooner?

[SONY]

craigix, on 15 December 2009 - 09:43 PM, said:

When you get your Pandora and see just how perfected it is you will understand the delays.

I think I just jizzed in my pants.

[jumpman]

So Craig, if the new case parts arrive over the weekend, and Michael gives the green light by next monday the 21st of december, what is a realistic time frame for the complete cases w/silkscreen to start arriving in the US for assembly? Keeping in mind the holidays at the end of december and what ever holidays the Chinese may be taking within the next month!


Jumpman

[Vorporeal]

You know he's not going to answer that. He's (hopefully) learned his lesson that if he gives out an estimated date, something will go wrong and there'll be another delay.

DAMNIT MURPHY!!!

[skyeyemachine]

Laurencevde, on 15 December 2009 - 01:43 PM, said:

Firstly, There's more overhead and complexity mostly due to maintaining perfect compatibility for 25 years, and bolting on more and more stuff in the process.
But the biggest reason is simply that low power-consumption is not really a necessity for desktop-computers, and pure speed for as low a cost as possible is much more important for selling them. This means that AMD and intel focus far less on power-management than typical ARM-developers do. Furthermore, the X86-platform is highly modular, with lots of long-lasting standards that are also primarily designed for speed, and any power-management in those standards is typically only bolted on later on. After which devices need to implement those features, or it'll stay disabled... (f.ex afaik, pci-express only learned how to power off lanes in V2...). And all devices are separate parts, developed individually, and need to work together with a wide range of other parts.
Simply put, the whole platform is geared towards speed and cheapness, and doesn't really bother with power-consumption.

Mm, interesting. Thank you, Laurencevde. Just so I'm clear, are you saying the ARM architecture is subtantially less modular (as in more tightly integrated, I guess)? It's funny, but I've never really thought about how software might need to maintain compatibility with a CPU over time - I always (erroniously, it seems) assumed that a CPU was more-or-less neutral in regards to whatever it was processing, so long as the all the inputs and outputs were set up properly. Shows how little I know about computer chip design...! So, if I understand correctly, I could in theory run pretty much any program compiled for the earliest X86 chips within the last 25 years (according to your estimate) on modern hardware without recompiling it - and perhaps vice-versa, to some extent? And that would likely not work in most cases with ARM software, since those designers care less about compatibility?

[stephen0205]

Dosent look like it but should be worth the wait, i still have hope

[Kloplop321]

greendots, on 15 December 2009 - 04:21 PM, said:

The holidays will put a halt to assembly in texas until after the new year I assume...
Is it going to be possible to get pandora 'kits' sooner?

Still means someone has to package them, and you still have the holidays' load of shipments right now.

[Chip]

fusion_power, on 15 December 2009 - 05:07 PM, said:

Please don't forget that WIFI chips can get VERY warm, so is this part checked over a longer time Period?

The Pandora uses the same wifi/BT chip as the G1. I have a G1, and the only time it gets noticeably warm is on long cell calls. I can browse over wifi for hours and it never gets warm.