[peca]

EvilDragon, on 06 February 2010 - 10:47 AM, said:

And as the case does work fine and we'll offer the good-looking replacements later, you should all be fine.

What will be price for case replacement? I'd like to take one non-final, as I need it really quickly. So I'd like to know how much more I must spent if I want perfect one later.

[mali]

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:

Be realistic, the case for the Pandora will never be perfect.

By my definition of perfection, those cases will never comply with common standards. Is that what you mean?

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 07:10 PM, said:

You mean to tell me your the most outspoken about waiting and you're not even in the first batch? Heck yeah it's easy for you to wait, you won't get yours for months no matter what. I'm in the freaking first batch and the last case was good enough for me. You shouldn't even get a say in the first batch.

I consider myself logical enough to think about what those other 3700 people from the first batch think about sub-standard cases. Those who are less vocal and maybe not even lurking here. Are you level-headed enough to speak for them, my friend?

This post has been edited by mali: 06 February 2010 - 06:17 PM

[second exodous]

Na-Noo, on 06 February 2010 - 11:06 AM, said:

Let's hope it was bad communication with the factory again. OP expecting sample of final case with final finish etc, factory thinking its just a sample so ok to use recycled plastic etc (if that's the problem)
I'll wait for vids and pics.
I just think it's unfair to just to say people who choose to wait for what OP decide is ok and (perfect enough) to be seen as too fussy, crazies, etc.

Yes, it's perfectly logical that the factory understood 'don't change anything from the last sample, wait two weeks, and then send the same thing again'.

Sorry, I haven't slept for 36 hours so I might be a little cranky, but come on people lets take a reality pill.

[Tokiopop]

peca, on 06 February 2010 - 06:11 PM, said:

EvilDragon, on 06 February 2010 - 10:47 AM, said:

And as the case does work fine and we'll offer the good-looking replacements later, you should all be fine.

What will be price for case replacement? I'd like to take one non-final, as I need it really quickly. So I'd like to know how much more I must spent if I want perfect one later.

This also interests me.

If the price is okay, and replacing the case myself doesn't void the warranty I'm up for it. Just as long as the ribbon for the screen isn't any harder than the DS one.

[Na-Noo]

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 06:05 PM, said:

mali, on 06 February 2010 - 10:56 AM, said:

I don't care about Chinese factories, tbh. I have no comparisons, cause no other project has been that open to actually reveal how long it takes, so it might be common, I don't know. Any decision the OP Team makes now, will have an impact on the project so it should be made with foresight. I guess that they are burnt out by the stress by now, but they should stay calm and wise and they shouldn't rush a decision.

It's not rushed. They have been dealing with this company for this long and know what to expect. The only way to get better than this is to pull out of this company and go somewhere else. If that happens add another 2 years on to the wait. I'm looking at my DS right now and it's not perfect, nothing in this life is perfect.

I'll say it again, we're dealing with a niche product that has a small run from a company that is making their first product on a budget, it will not be perfect. If it functions that is enough. The last case I had to look closely at the pics to even see what they were talking about. And I'll say that I have found imperfections on both my GBA SP and my NDSL, two products made by the biggest company making gaming handhelds today.

Be realistic, the case for the Pandora will never be perfect, if this revision has a few flaws like the last I say go for it and get them out the door.

He never said case is rushed, he said not to rush the decision.
He also never said he wanted perfection either.
Your examples just proves his point, those cases are perfect if perfect means to comply with common standards.
OP may be small but their not using a back street market trader to make the case.

[LeChuck87]

New Pictures are on MWestons Photobucket-Account.. (Rev.3 Cases)

Look here...

This post has been edited by LeChuck87: 06 February 2010 - 06:22 PM

[second exodous]

mali, on 06 February 2010 - 11:11 AM, said:

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:

Be realistic, the case for the Pandora will never be perfect.

By my definition of perfection, those cases will never comply with common standards. Is that what you mean?

I'm sorry mali, like I said above I'm running on no sleep and I probably shouldn't be posting. I want to say that I didn't see the 'flaws' of the last case as that big and could have lived with them and with mweston saying that they didn't do anything drives me nuts. I still want to see pics and vids before I cast my vote. If they are like the last case I say go for it though.

[hosant]

mali, on 06 February 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 07:05 PM, said:

Be realistic, the case for the Pandora will never be perfect.

By my definition of perfection, those cases will never comply with common standards. Is that what you mean?

What are the common standards? The 360 shipped in the millions with a system fatal flaw that caused Microsoft to lose billions. The original GBA was virtually unplayable without the help of an external light source. My PSP has an odd placement of the power switch that causes me to randomly shut down the device if I'm not careful. The touch pads keys of my EEE 701 broke from normal use, now they are duct taped... So far, from what i have seen of pandora, the flaws are minor.

This post has been edited by hosant: 06 February 2010 - 06:30 PM

[second exodous]

LeChuck87, on 06 February 2010 - 11:19 AM, said:

New Pictures are on MWestons Photobucket-Account.. (Rev.3 Cases)

Look here...

I see fingerprints and dust, where are the imperfections? I'm guessing he hasn't taken pics of the troubled areas yet but I'm sure no matter how minor they are people will start nitpicking.

EDIT: On the back of the hinge it looks cracked. Is that one of the flaws? The two halves of the bottom aren't together, is that a flaw? I don't see the discoloring though. I also don't see shrinkage from what I'm looking at.

Get the microscope out people and lets find flaws.

This post has been edited by second exodous: 06 February 2010 - 06:32 PM

[purplesky]

The cases are nasty. Real nasty. This is the type of quality you'd expect 20+ years ago from cheap Chinese imports. Even most recent Chinese knockoffs are much better in quality.
Seriously... not sure how much has been paid for this work but have a look at the latest 3rd revision now that are now up. This is ultra cheap rubbish. The Pandora inside does not deserve to be in such a poor case. Nothing deservses to be in such a poor case

[Prometheus]

I cannot speak for anyone else, but the case in the pictures looks fine for my needs. :)

I'm not impatient, I've long been one of the quiet folks, but I would like one of these if this is what the team chooses to do. I sent an e-mail earlier, before the pictures were up, and they look pretty much as I'd expected - I stand by my decision.

This post has been edited by Prometheus: 06 February 2010 - 06:31 PM

[Rathum]

LeChuck87, on 06 February 2010 - 12:19 PM, said:

New Pictures are on MWestons Photobucket-Account.. (Rev.3 Cases)

Look here...

It looks pretty good. The ports do seem rough, but it does look like it had been in my pocket for a month or so. The color also seems a bit odd. Overall, I would rate it "Acceptable".

I would take it now and buy a new case later (or not) if given the choice.

This post has been edited by Rathum: 06 February 2010 - 06:32 PM

[WolfSpider]

Why does it have so many cracks and dents?

[Na-Noo]

second exodous, on 06 February 2010 - 06:28 PM, said:

I see fingerprints and dust, where are the imperfections? I'm guessing he hasn't taken pics of the troubled areas yet but I'm sure no matter how minor they are people will start nitpicking.

Don't remember anyone nitpicking apart from OP unless that's what you meant?

Edit: Be interesting to hear if it's recycled plastic or not. Has that been confirmed?

This post has been edited by Na-Noo: 06 February 2010 - 06:34 PM

[purplesky]

WolfSpider, on 06 February 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

Why does it have so many cracks and dents?

Poor moulds. Doubt the production run will be any better - maybe slightly if at all.
You could probably do a better job yourself at home with remouldable plastic