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#1 Harold Hutchins

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:07 AM

hi, long time lurker, first time poster, i have been researching the open pandora for a while now and the multiple linuxes seemed like a cool idea! it was kinda disappointing to see that the open pandora cant run windows but its fine and here is where my question comes in. would it be possible to make a new linux with windows? i know normal windows wasn't work but if it was a linux windows os? that to me sounds like a great idea!

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:09 AM

hi, long time lurker, first time poster, i have been researching the open pandora for a while now and the multiple linuxes seemed like a cool idea! it was kinda disappointing to see that the open pandora cant run windows but its fine and here is where my question comes in. would it be possible to make a new linux with windows? i know normal windows wasn't work but if it was a linux windows os? that to me sounds like a great idea!

umm... what? :blink:

If you just want it to look like windows that can be done, but nothing can make it run windows programs

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:14 AM

I think he's asking if it's possible to make Linux look and act exactly like Windows.
Short answer yes, have fun doing it.
Long answer, no. I doubt you're going find anyone to help you.

Even if you make Linux look and act just like Windows it's still not going to run Windows applications natively, There simply is no incentive other than to fool people into thinking you're running Windows when you're not.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:15 AM

please elaborate. Not following you

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:15 AM

well i was wondering mostly so i could play WoW but also ventchat with my guild buddies when im not on a raid or at my computer, i dont need anything like vista or 7 just some simple windows

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:18 AM

VNC and programs like StreamMyGame are the only way to get what you might be wanting, Windows accessibility on Pandora. I also see you have many interests and a lot of chans.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:18 AM

well i was wondering mostly so i could play WoW but also ventchat with my guild buddies when im not on a raid or at my computer, i dont need anything like vista or 7 just some simple windows

sorry, outta luck here. Even if there were a version of windows that ran on the ARM processor (which there isn't, I'm not counting CE) the games/programs themselves would have to be compiled/coded a certain way to run properly.

EDIT: ninja'd, totally forgot about VNC & the like, good call.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:20 AM

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:20 AM

hi, long time lurker, first time poster, i have been researching the open pandora for a while now and the multiple linuxes seemed like a cool idea! it was kinda disappointing to see that the open pandora cant run windows but its fine and here is where my question comes in. would it be possible to make a new linux with windows? i know normal windows wasn't work but if it was a linux windows os? that to me sounds like a great idea!



1. If you want an OS with "windows," then you're in luck. The current OS build has a window manager which can act just like a full LINUX desktop.

2. If you want a linux OS that looks like "Microsoft Windows," our current OS is completely theme able, so feel free to cook something up that looks the way you want it to.

3. If you want "Microsoft Windows" Linux which runs Microsoft Office 2007 and Internet Explorer, well then you're just being silly, and it will never happen.

EDIT: Spelling, and yeah I wasn't thinking of streammygame and VNC either. (I almost went into a QEMU caveat, but then realized I barely even understand THAT)

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:22 AM

VNC and programs like StreamMyGame are the only way to get what you might be wanting, Windows accessibility on Pandora. I also see you have many interests and a lot of chans.

well does it at least have ie8 or safari or ff? i need to be able to access my chans at work/on my boat.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:22 AM

well i was wondering mostly so i could play WoW but also ventchat with my guild buddies when im not on a raid or at my computer, i dont need anything like vista or 7 just some simple windows

WoW will not happen. Period.

Mangler is a opensource implementation of the Ventrillo client, so you might be in luck there. Provided it can be ported to ARM.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:22 AM

:huh: Mhhh, well linux have many window managers (Gnome, Kde, Xfce, ...)
So we won't have to use console.
But Pandora won't be able to run applications built for Microsoft Windows 95, 98, Me *shiver*, 2000, XP, Vista *cold sweat*, 7, etc...
I hope that answer was helpful, I'm not sure to have understood your question quite well :huh:

I'm slow typer : ninja'd :ph34r:


EDIT 2 : The vengeance!
Pandora will be shipped with a lightweight internet navigator, but you'll be able to install firefox (wil probably be a PND packaged app).
IE8 is a native Microsoft Windows application.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:26 AM


well i was wondering mostly so i could play WoW but also ventchat with my guild buddies when im not on a raid or at my computer, i dont need anything like vista or 7 just some simple windows

WoW will not happen. Period.

Mangler is a opensource implementation of the Ventrillo client, so you might be in luck there. Provided it can be ported to ARM.

oh that sounds fine then, i don't mind no WoW if i can still vent.

other question if it can't run WoW than what types of games can it run (NOT EMULATORS (their fun and all but im talking about normal games))?

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:27 AM


VNC and programs like StreamMyGame are the only way to get what you might be wanting, Windows accessibility on Pandora. I also see you have many interests and a lot of chans.

well does it at least have ie8 or safari or ff? i need to be able to access my chans at work/on my boat.

Firefox & a host of other browsers will run no problem on linux (I think the one being included is midori). Flash support is currently a big MAYBE though.

oh that sounds fine then, i don't mind no WoW if i can still vent.

other question if it can't run WoW than what types of games can it run (NOT EMULATORS (their fun and all but im talking about normal games))?

There won't be many (if any) Commercial games if that's what you mean by 'normal'. There will however be a slew of user-created games (homebrew), of which there are always some real gems.

see here & here for some upcoming pandora homebrew games

Edited by Consequence_9, 24 February 2010 - 02:32 AM.


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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:31 AM



VNC and programs like StreamMyGame are the only way to get what you might be wanting, Windows accessibility on Pandora. I also see you have many interests and a lot of chans.

well does it at least have ie8 or safari or ff? i need to be able to access my chans at work/on my boat.

Firefox & a host of other browsers will run no problem on linux (I think the one being included is midori). Flash support is currently a big MAYBE though.

oh that sounds fine then, i don't mind no WoW if i can still vent.

other question if it can't run WoW than what types of games can it run (NOT EMULATORS (their fun and all but im talking about normal games))?

There won't be many (if any) Commercial games if that's what you mean by 'normal'. There will however be a slew of user-created games (homebrew), of which there are always some real gems.

so games like bejeweled then? i can live with that i guess. i want my lady friends to marvel at the power of my OPEN PANDORA when i get it, so i guess that could impress them.