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[WizardStan]

When I discovered this it really shook my faith . I don't have, and have never owned or even ever used a official "USB 2.0" device that I recall.
But then I was enlightened: hey whatever, it's not my design hehe

External hard drives, or thumb drives, mostly. A lot of them will also fall back on USB1.1 if they can't get a USB2.0 connection, but that's something built into them, not something that's part of the spec. Most ethernet and a lot of 3G modems as well, I think, are USB2.0.

[crade]

When I discovered this it really shook my faith . I don't have, and have never owned or even ever used a official "USB 2.0" device that I recall.
But then I was enlightened: hey whatever, it's not my design hehe

External hard drives, or thumb drives, mostly. A lot of them will also fall back on USB1.1 if they can't get a USB2.0 connection, but that's something built into them, not something that's part of the spec. Most ethernet and a lot of 3G modems as well, I think, are USB2.0.

I wasn't trying to say there aren't any USB 2.0 devices.. I just don't have any. I checked all my USB stuff when I found out it was USB 2 only to see if there was anything I could use

[peca]

^Crade: It was always stated that Pandora port is USB 2.0 HIGH SPEED only. So even if You have some USB 2.0 thing that is capable only full speed, it will not work. BUT there is solution trough USB 2.0 HUB which support 1.1/2.0 full/high speed conversion (all with USB hignh speed official logo) and trough USB OTG port which is compatible, but use mini AB connector, so need some wiring or buying cheap adapter. There even exists solution with special USB cable that has USB HUB implemented in connector and using it for its extended length - just to shorten it.

[crade]

^Crade: It was always stated that Pandora port is USB 2.0 HIGH SPEED only. So even if You have some USB 2.0 thing that is capable only full speed, it will not work. BUT there is solution trough USB 2.0 HUB which support 1.1/2.0 full/high speed conversion (all with USB hignh speed official logo) and trough USB OTG port which is compatible, but use mini AB connector, so need some wiring or buying cheap adapter. There even exists solution with special USB cable that has USB HUB implemented in connector and using it for its extended length - just to shorten it.

As you point out, it is my own fault for not doing enough research beforehand, I was unlearned and not in the habit of checking the details on USB ports when looking at potential devices. It wouldn't have mattered anyway since the pandora is great and is still more that worth the price.. I was just dissapointed when I discovered it has two USB ports, and I still couldn't use most USB devices I would encounter in my travels unless I carry an adapter around with me all the time.

[peca]

Crade: Don't get me bad :-) I mean it as "this is not hidden bug or feature". I know that if somebody doesn't closely follow project from early age, then he can miss some informations. Really good page for getting into is http://pandorawiki.org/FAQ (You probably spot it already). So don't take it as I'm attacking You, but as some note about situation.

I think that this "USB issue" is not big trouble IMHO. I intend to use Pandora mostly as pocket computer. For house use I cane prepare some USB hub mounted to PC monitor or to desk (secretary). So at home I can use external keyboard, mouse, monitor (over USB or over TV out and TV to VGA converter) and so. Nowadays USB HDDs and Flashes use HighSpeed anyway so this is no issue. And even if I need keyboard and mouse while travelling, I probably use Blue-Tooth (actually I have BT mouse already).

[chickendung]

There is also one here:
http://www.retrousb....45c404698ca7161
That would require one less part as it has the cable included.
Of course, this sucker isn't USB 2 either (hardly anything is really)

Unfortunately those kits don't support multi-taps, at least not the Genesis one.

Oh really? That kinda sucks. Do you mean it won't work or isn't "officially supported"?
I just assumed that the multitap would work similarly to the genesis controller.

When I was first looking for Genesis adapters, I emailed the guy in charge of those kits. He said multi-taps do not work.