[mali]

Months ago I thought about the possibility, that this is the original reason for the re-fund. Keeping both companies separate. Taking CC re-orders from GP32 was a mistake. This speculation might be wrong, though.

[aq21]

Months ago I thought about the possibility, that this is the original reason for the re-fund. Keeping both companies separate. Taking CC re-orders from GP32 was a mistake. This speculation might be wrong, though.

Do you want to bet on getting an official answer? speculation is all we got.

[j.pickens]

Please don't help openpandora by advancing their lies as if they have something to do with the truth.

I just checked my Credit Card confirmation email - it was paid to GP32 distribution ltd. This company runs the gbax.com site, and continues to accept credit cards as usual.

Craig does not want to accept credit card, while claiming he cannot accept credit cards. Together with the partial refund, that's a scam.

You're telling us that you believe that the bank paid out the money from the credit card orders, and Craig just decided to return it? In what way is this logical?
And the bank refunded all of the order money at the current exchange rate, GB pounds in, GB pounds out, different rates vs. other currencies, so the final amount in the buyer's currency changed.
How is this a "partial refund"?

Give me a break...

[Eniko]

... And the cake is totally a lie.

What? Just helping the conspiracy theories along.

[G189]

... And the cake is totally a lie.

What? Just helping the conspiracy theories along.

Are you saying... PORTAL ON THE PANDORA??!

[Chip]

Months ago I thought about the possibility, that this is the original reason for the re-fund. Keeping both companies separate. Taking CC re-orders from GP32 was a mistake. This speculation might be wrong, though.

Do you want to bet on getting an official answer? speculation is all we got.

It's been answered. You can stop being crazy now.

[Prometheus]

Hey guys,

Do you think they would be able to use CC cheques, my bank sent a batch the other day and they work just like a normal chq but come out my CC instead of my bank account?

Whats your thoughts on this?

Cheers

I mentioned these things in another thread. This is what I used, and it went well - I checked with them prior to sending it that it would be fine, and it was.

This post has been edited by Prometheus: 20 January 2009 - 06:55 PM

[taltoris]

I don't mean to sound heretical, but here goes.

Will Credit Cards be accepted for the second batch? Or are you still willing to cover the cost of a bank transfer should I decide to go through my bank? If so should I just send the amount refunded minus the transfer fees? (Sorry if this one has been answered, but I haven't heard anything definitive on the matter yet.) The Tranzfers option does not look like it'll work for me.

This post has been edited by taltoris: 20 January 2009 - 06:58 PM

[Asmo]

You're telling us that you believe that the bank paid out the money from the credit card orders, and Craig just decided to return it? In what way is this logical?

No, I think what he's saying is that perhaps the Bank locked those funds, possibly under the proviso that they would be released only once the orders were shown to be fulfilled, so as to avoid the Bank being stuck with chargebacks and no funds to meet them. So the money received couldn't be used for production and refunds were initiated so as to seek funds anew that could be spent immediately.

[Eniko]

... And the cake is totally a lie.

What? Just helping the conspiracy theories along.

Are you saying... PORTAL ON THE PANDORA??!

Am I saying that? I'm not saying that I'm saying that, but I'm also not saying that I'm not saying that. Having said that, I will say that I cannot confirm nor deny this rumour.

[Chip]

No, I think what he's saying is that perhaps the Bank locked those funds, possibly under the proviso that they would be released only once the orders were shown to be fulfilled, so as to avoid the Bank being stuck with chargebacks and no funds to meet them. So the money received couldn't be used for production and refunds were initiated so as to seek funds anew that could be spent immediately.

No, we were never given that option. They said that all credit card orders must be refunded. I suspect that they figured that this was some sort of scam, and that people would start reversing the charges in droves within a week or two. After two weeks of the bank telling us they were processing refunds but no refunds going out (and no chargebacks coming in), they realized they had made a mistake. Unable to admit they fucked up, they continued to drag their feet with refunds for two months, probably hoping we would simply go out of business and go away. They still refuse to refund the AMEX orders and have gone back to their original plan of just hoping we go under so they won't have to deal with us.

Unfortunately for HSBC, that is not happening. The final Pandora prototype with the CNC case will be put together within the next few weeks. If that goes well, we could see actual mass produced Pandoras rolling off the assembly line in less than two months. The bank has gone out of their way to make this difficult for us, but everything is coming together in spite of their interference.

[GoblinKing]

Hey guys,

Do you think they would be able to use CC cheques, my bank sent a batch the other day and they work just like a normal chq but come out my CC instead of my bank account?

Whats your thoughts on this?

Cheers

I mentioned these things in another thread. This is what I used, and it went well - I checked with them prior to sending it that it would be fine, and it was.

oooooohh, in that case that me sorted then

[DenHarrow]

Hmmm. I hadn't thought of CC cheques before, since I considered it a CC payment. If this truly works, then a VISA cheque will soon be making it's way from Canada to the UK.

[TaG]

Just a word of caution on CC cheques - the terms vary considerably between cards. Some charge a fairly high percentage fee and offer poor exchange rates. I seem to remember you also start getting charged interest from the day you issue it, as opposed to getting charged from you payment due date even if you clear the card, and the rate can be diffrent to normal purchases. It can add up and cost you as much as the bank transfer, which craigix said they would part-fund. Also, if you think it gives normal 'credit card protection' think again - it is treated like a cash advance.

[hedwards]

Hmmm. I hadn't thought of CC cheques before, since I considered it a CC payment. If this truly works, then a VISA cheque will soon be making it's way from Canada to the UK.

I'd be surprised if it works, a visa check is a form of advance drawn up as a check. You pay interest from the get go like an advance.

What I've been considering is the logistics of sending a cashier's check to Craig for the amount that's desired. The only thing that's iffy is that it'd probably have to be drawn upon Dollars. Perhaps that's not such a bad thing though since the dollar is strengthening and I believe that I just have to pay the amount I was refunded.