otacon
Nov 10 2005, 11:31 PM
am I the only one putting roms on an sd card?, even if the emulators have not been released.
DaveC
Nov 10 2005, 11:32 PM
QUOTE(otacon @ Nov 10 2005, 11:31 PM)
am I the only one putting roms on an sd card?, even if the emulators have not been released.
Probably.
otacon
Nov 10 2005, 11:33 PM
i guess I'm a loser
Jarska333
Nov 10 2005, 11:33 PM
Don't have one.

And one does not yet know, what folder the emu accesses, so...
Empyre
Nov 10 2005, 11:36 PM
I'm converting movies to 320x240 does that count?
TelcoLou
Nov 10 2005, 11:38 PM
I don't even ave an SD card yet

(I'm severely slacking in my geek duties...)
unlucky
Nov 10 2005, 11:41 PM
Yeah i haven't ordered an sd card either any ideas what the cheapest price is for 512mb or 1gb sb ebuyer seems to be doing pretty good as usual
Eolair
Nov 10 2005, 11:43 PM
Same here...still need to buy a card.
otacon
Nov 10 2005, 11:45 PM
i got my 1 gig sd card $55+ tax
OCA|
Nov 10 2005, 11:46 PM
I have a card, but havn't been transferring yet. I still need to de-solder it from some random project I was using it for
I have, however, gone through all my backups and archives trying to find any ROM and/or old DOS game data files I can get my hands on. Stuff for DooM, Heretic, Hexen, Ultima VII, Duke 3d, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Descent... It's all nice and neat in a folder waiting to be transferred.
-OCA|
Empyre
Nov 10 2005, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(unlucky @ Nov 10 2005, 11:41 PM)
Yeah i haven't ordered an sd card either any ideas what the cheapest price is for 512mb or 1gb sb ebuyer seems to be doing pretty good as usual
Try
http://www.svp.co.uk£23 for 512 hi speed and £41 for 1gb hi speed
ZodiacfreaK
Nov 11 2005, 12:02 AM
You shouldnt pay more than $50 dollars for a 1gb card shipped. A 512 obviously $24. Also because I have owned previous SD handhelds (Tapwave Zodiac

) I allready have about 4 of them stocked full of PSX, SNES, GB, GENESIS, MAME, HEXEN, DOOM, and QUAKE wads and ROM's. Also I have a 1gb filled with movies. I will have to re-encode them at a lower screen size for obvious reasons
junker
Nov 11 2005, 12:18 AM
yeah SD stuff should be cheaper than that..i guess everything over there is higher priced!
anyway, too broke to buy an sd card now, but converting a movie here and there..
DaveC
Nov 11 2005, 12:29 AM
QUOTE(ZodiacfreaK @ Nov 11 2005, 12:02 AM)
Also I have a 1gb filled with movies. I will have to re-encode them at a lower screen size for obvious reasons

No you don't. The GP2X automatically resizes in hardware for the internal screen. When you use the TV-out you get full resolution. So you get the best of both worlds.
triton
Nov 11 2005, 12:45 AM
if i could find an gig SD card for less than 50$ shipped i would be in heaven, sheapest i have seen is 54$ with free shipping
reallynotnick
Nov 11 2005, 01:18 AM
QUOTE(DaveC @ Nov 10 2005, 06:29 PM)
QUOTE(ZodiacfreaK @ Nov 11 2005, 12:02 AM)
Also I have a 1gb filled with movies. I will have to re-encode them at a lower screen size for obvious reasons

No you don't. The GP2X automatically resizes in hardware for the internal screen. When you use the TV-out you get full resolution. So you get the best of both worlds.
Well taking up your whole SD card does not really seem worth it to just watch it on the tv.
I already have my 1gb kingston pro/highspeed card for $50 and have re-encoded a few things, but I am wating to see if it supports h.264 and if it does then I will be re-encoded 24/7!
Prothall
Nov 11 2005, 01:29 AM
On Black Friday BestBuy (Satan's Love Shack, I know) will have 1GB SD cards, no rebates. I'm hoping some other place can equal/better that deal...
junker
Nov 11 2005, 02:13 AM
satan's love shack is right!
nubie
Nov 11 2005, 02:54 AM
check my sig, as of over a month ago
TandeM
Nov 11 2005, 03:05 AM
QUOTE(triton @ Nov 11 2005, 01:45 AM)
if i could find an gig SD card for less than 50$ shipped i would be in heaven, sheapest i have seen is 54$ with free shipping
Within the US you can get either two 512MB cards or one 1GB from Newegg for < $50 shipped, or all three for < $90.
Link (Edge 512MB, Kingston 512MB, EP 1GB...or get the Kingston Elite Pro 1GB/Corsair 1GB for higher transfer speeds if you're loading full movies, etc.)
iignotus
Nov 11 2005, 04:04 AM
I'm also converting music and movies to low-bitrate counterparts.
Drak
Nov 11 2005, 04:57 AM
QUOTE(Empyre @ Nov 10 2005, 03:36 PM)
I'm converting movies to 320x240 does that count?
You dont need to it alraedy reads any res... It was mentioned in some thingy

anyways i got about 3 anime series downloaded, just gotta get my sd card and plop a few episodes on it
Drak
Nov 11 2005, 05:02 AM
QUOTE(TandeM @ Nov 10 2005, 07:05 PM)
QUOTE(triton @ Nov 11 2005, 01:45 AM)
if i could find an gig SD card for less than 50$ shipped i would be in heaven, sheapest i have seen is 54$ with free shipping
Within the US you can get either two 512MB cards or one 1GB from Newegg for < $50 shipped, or all three for < $90.
Link (Edge 512MB, Kingston 512MB, EP 1GB...or get the Kingston Elite Pro 1GB/Corsair 1GB for higher transfer speeds if you're loading full movies, etc.)
Is this site legit!???? holy shit those are cheap

Ebay no more hello this site! like wow!
aw crap i just noticed it seems to be US only.. Any1 know one that has 1gig sd cards that cheap availiable to Canada.?
Ravnos
Nov 11 2005, 05:02 AM
QUOTE(Drak @ Nov 10 2005, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(TandeM @ Nov 10 2005, 07:05 PM)
QUOTE(triton @ Nov 11 2005, 01:45 AM)
if i could find an gig SD card for less than 50$ shipped i would be in heaven, sheapest i have seen is 54$ with free shipping
Within the US you can get either two 512MB cards or one 1GB from Newegg for < $50 shipped, or all three for < $90.
Link (Edge 512MB, Kingston 512MB, EP 1GB...or get the Kingston Elite Pro 1GB/Corsair 1GB for higher transfer speeds if you're loading full movies, etc.)
Is this site legit!???? holy shit those are cheap

Ebay no more hello this site! like wow!
Newegg doesn't ship outside the U.S.
iignotus
Nov 11 2005, 05:28 AM
QUOTE(Drak @ Nov 10 2005, 11:57 PM)
QUOTE(Empyre @ Nov 10 2005, 03:36 PM)
I'm converting movies to 320x240 does that count?
You dont need to it alraedy reads any res... It was mentioned in some thingy

anyways i got about 3 anime series downloaded, just gotta get my sd card and plop a few episodes on it

It was also mentioned that this is mainly being done to save space on the relatively small SD cards.
TreIII
Nov 11 2005, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(DaveC @ Nov 10 2005, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE(ZodiacfreaK @ Nov 11 2005, 12:02 AM)
Also I have a 1gb filled with movies. I will have to re-encode them at a lower screen size for obvious reasons

No you don't. The GP2X automatically resizes in hardware for the internal screen. When you use the TV-out you get full resolution. So you get the best of both worlds.
For real? I thought I read on another topic that said we had to scale down DIVX stuff for TV OUT, at least, with the upmost being 720 by 480. So, if that's false, does this entail that the 2X should take care of the rest with auto-scaling for both the 2X's screen and TV-Out?
Drak
Nov 11 2005, 05:46 AM
QUOTE(TreIII @ Nov 10 2005, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE(DaveC @ Nov 10 2005, 08:29 PM)
QUOTE(ZodiacfreaK @ Nov 11 2005, 12:02 AM)
Also I have a 1gb filled with movies. I will have to re-encode them at a lower screen size for obvious reasons

No you don't. The GP2X automatically resizes in hardware for the internal screen. When you use the TV-out you get full resolution. So you get the best of both worlds.
For real? I thought I read on another topic that said we had to scale down DIVX stuff for TV OUT, at least, with the upmost being 720 by 480. So, if that's false, does this entail that the 2X should take care of the rest with auto-scaling for both the 2X's screen and TV-Out?
It takes care of everything from what I heard yo ucan just put ur media u downloaded straight onto the card and itll work fine ;p
Empyre
Nov 11 2005, 05:51 AM
QUOTE(TreIII @ Nov 11 2005, 05:33 AM)
So, if that's false, does this entail that the 2X should take care of the rest with auto-scaling for both the 2X's screen and TV-Out?
Thats right, you can throw pretty much anything on the card and the gp2x will play it (except for ac3 audio and wmv) it will scale to the resolution of the playback device.
Only reason to reencode is to save space. I'm squeezing a few movies so that i can get 8 on a 1 gig card.
Batman2
Nov 11 2005, 10:32 AM
Got a 150x High Speed 2GB SD Card coming, hopfully will be here soon to use with my GP2X when that arrives, can't wait.
Winterkid
Nov 11 2005, 10:59 AM
I'm re-encoding a couple things to shorten the filesize, but mostly to redo the audio tracks. I'm not into silent films, unless it's Charlie Chaplin.
Prothall
Nov 11 2005, 11:50 AM
Question: You can actually fit 8 properly sized movies on a 1GB SD Card? Is that with sound? What encoding are you using? I assume these are feature films - is that correct? What software are you using to help you along?
And, to the general public (I'm afraid this is redundant, though we should really start a thread with this as its sole purpose) what's the best video re-sizer / audio adjuster for various OSs? (I'm on Linux, but I would think at least roughly half the board is still on Windows much of the time...)
Vimacs
Nov 11 2005, 11:56 AM
when you dont need high quality you can easyly fit 120 minutes in 200mb, iam currently encodeing my films to 250mb with divx6, even 180 minute ones, and the qulity is great. definality better than 120mb divx 4 that i was used to at gp32 :-)
Empyre
Nov 11 2005, 01:28 PM
QUOTE(Prothall @ Nov 11 2005, 11:50 AM)
Question: You can actually fit 8 properly sized movies on a 1GB SD Card? Is that with sound? What encoding are you using? I assume these are feature films - is that correct? What software are you using to help you along?
And, to the general public (I'm afraid this is redundant, though we should really start a thread with this as its sole purpose) what's the best video re-sizer / audio adjuster for various OSs? (I'm on Linux, but I would think at least roughly half the board is still on Windows much of the time...)
I'm using Pocket Divx Encoder, PDA option with the quality setting clicked down a couple of times. movies are coming out at about 128mb each.
The movies all look great but the sound seems out by a fraction (on my pda played from sd), it does however only take about 20-30 mins to do a film.
Will try the same experiment with auto gordian knot as well, just to see if it does a better job.
iignotus
Nov 11 2005, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(Prothall @ Nov 11 2005, 06:50 AM)
And, to the general public (I'm afraid this is redundant, though we should really start a thread with this as its sole purpose) what's the best video re-sizer / audio adjuster for various OSs? (I'm on Linux, but I would think at least roughly half the board is still on Windows much of the time...)
I'm on Linux too. Get
avidemux2. It works very much like VirtualDub. I also recommend XviD or another supported mpeg4-type codec at around 300-500kbps for the video, and MP3 or Vorbis audio at 80-128kbps or 48-96kbps, respectively.
I'll be doing a lot of codec trials on my gp2x, and will report on my website (
http://gp2xdev.no-ip.org/gp2x/index.html ) what works and what doesn't out of the box, including an encoding guide specifically for Linux users, in a few days
Prothall
Nov 13 2005, 04:16 AM
iignotus, sorry I didn't get back to - popped out of town and into weird debate-land adventures.
Anyway, you get the proverbial cookie. That sounds absolutely stupendous. Also, did avidemux have a Windows port? I think I may have tinkered with it (to little effect) some months back...
Empyre, PDE is Win-only, so I'll check out Auto Gordian Knot... Though all the main websites for it seem to have diappeared... hm. At least the SourceForge is around, though I think that is the base project.
Also, is it just my idiocy or is there some reason finding avidemux2 non-rpm packages is tricky? I'm running Slack-based Vector.
iignotus
Nov 13 2005, 04:53 AM
QUOTE(Prothall @ Nov 12 2005, 11:16 PM)
Also, is it just my idiocy or is there some reason finding avidemux2 non-rpm packages is tricky? I'm running Slack-based Vector.
I wouldn't say idiocy, you just don't know where to look. I'm on Slackware too and use avidemux all the time

I'm not sure if Vector has its own package system, but if it's really based on Slackware, you can just installpkg this package right
here. Just get the package that is closest to your version of slackware. The base website is also an amazing site for all packages Slackware.
OCA|
Nov 13 2005, 04:59 AM
Personally, image and sound quality doesn't matter much when viewing movies on a handheld. So, my settings when I converted several episodes of FireFly:
Target size: 64 MegaBytes
Video: Xvid
Width: 320
Audio: MP3, 64kbps, mono
They look and sound good enough, and at 64 megs per episode (128 for the 80-minute-long pilot), that's 96 megabytes per hour. Five hours of video and still plenty of room for Roms and DooM/Quake/DukeNukem.
Currently, I'm using AutoGK and Handbreak. I like AutoGK because it lets me specify the audio as mono, and I like Handbreak because it lets me set the sample rate lower... so neither of them are quite the perfect solution for me. That said, if the GP2x ever gets H.264 support, I'll be throwing everything through Handbreak again.
Speaking of H.264, is there any reason the GP2x couldn't handle H.264?
-OCA|
Winterkid
Nov 13 2005, 07:45 AM
I believe they couldn't afford to officially support the codec. Indeo is quite uptight about that kind of thing. An unsupported codec of that kind might show up from someone I'm sure. At least I hope so.
DynaMight
Nov 13 2005, 12:43 PM
QUOTE(Empyre @ Nov 11 2005, 01:28 PM)
I'm using Pocket Divx Encoder, PDA option with the quality setting clicked down a couple of times. movies are coming out at about 128mb each.
The movies all look great but the sound seems out by a fraction (on my pda played from sd), it does however only take about 20-30 mins to do a film.
Will try the same experiment with auto gordian knot as well, just to see if it does a better job.
Just tried that Pocket Divx Encoder, It looks like a really handy program! Just took a 400MB Xvid down to 95MB, however it wont play on my PC (got the latest K-Lite Codec Pack), It brings up a error with the actual divx5 codec but I'll see how it fairs on the GP2X when I get it.
reallynotnick
Nov 13 2005, 03:46 PM
Could someone please test if h.264 works, if need be I will send you an h.264 file to test.
Right now I am just using regular mpeg-4, because I find it the easiest to encode with (I use a mac) and can't find any really good programs to do divx6 and I don't believe there is much of a quality difference, but I am probally wrong.
As far as encoding goes, with mpeg-4 I like 4mb-6mb a sec (for hollywood movies) and with H.264 I like 3-4mb a sec (they achually look better then the mpeg-4). Someone REALLY needs to get H.264 to work if it already doesn't, it has great quality, easy to use, and well supported. Plus it looks like the next gen HD Discs will be using it, making it a great choice.
Prothall
Nov 13 2005, 04:15 PM
Thanks again, iignotus! Entirely correct in your estimation, as I'd never seen linuxpackages.net before. Handy.
In any case, in the meantime I had discovered the avidemux2 site itself (buried in the nets, for some reason) and recognized it - I had used it under Windows back in the day.
Now I'm ready to get chugging along on an entertainment queue for my GP2X - Thanks!
iignotus
Nov 13 2005, 05:13 PM
No problem, Prothall. It's good to see someone getting helped.
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