- First. My English is very bad (I'm korean....) very sorry, ;-( -

very bad news...

Gp2x have many bug...

1. LCD bug.

gp2x LCD used Taiwan LCD, (it is GP32 BLU+ LCD)

Taiwan LCD is bad (Original Gp32 used samsung LCD)

Q. Why Gamepark holdings used Taiwan LCD?

A. cost down.....

http://gpain.com/gp/skins/bbs/FileDownload...m=3&FileNum=362
<LCD divide half>


2. many firmware bug
http://gpain.com/gp/skins/bbs/FileDownload...m=6&FileNum=272
<codec error>

http://gp2x.co.kr/data_commu/star4117_051112215657.jpg
<firmware errror - not booting>

Firmware have many bug,

win98 is not connect (not support....) - usb host, connect

nand memory don't use..(not support....)

USB connect error

many codec error (xvid support bad...)

TEXT viewer have bug (not support Bookmark)

not support Chinese character

normal Alkaline use battery time 2hours....(terrible...)

not support 2gb SDcard

many MP3 player bug

many Movie player bug


And many bug...

nohing new there, and i dont see a problem with the lcd.
also most of that is fixable.
no windows 98 support is the fault of windows 98 wich dosnt support usb host, there are some drivers for it anyway, use google.

r u certain about all these bugs.
I got a 2gb SC card for my GP2X. I hope it works cos i'm not buying another one

It is "ARE YOU", such idiot speek pisses me off seriously and makes you look like a complete idiot.

Vimacs...

Before you go after a newbie for his poor usage please make sure that you do not have any mistakes in your own post.

"Speek" may not be a mistake. Like 733t-speek, or how does one write leet in leet-speek....

I'm sure I saw Craigix write that the BLU+ screen actually looked better? Is that correct?



Who really uses Alkalines long-term? Especially cheap-o ones. A good Ni-MH rechargable will last up to 3 times as long.

The rest of the (relatively minor) bugs should be taken care of with the new firmware. We always knew there would be teething problems -- and this was exacerbated by impatient customers rushing GPH to get the units out before they could properly test them. It's "our" fault (well, the few who complained and threatened to cancel orders, anyway).

Thanks for the info, Acura!

I think people need to be reminded that if they have pre-ordered a GP2X, they are an "early adopter". This is a brand-new product, and we know it will have bugs to start with. Because Gamepark Holdings doesn't have the resources of (say) Sony, the GP2X will not come out as well-polished as the PSP... and we know that the PSP has had its problems as well.

What we do know, is that the situation will improve quickly, because we will make that happen. We are getting a great piece of hardware, but we will not get loads of great software to start with. Personally I'm happy with that, and I'm looking forward to contributing to the scene that will form around the GP2X.

Don't let a few initial problems distract you from the glorious future

Agreed.

O_o i bought a 2 Gb SD Card Kingstom soo expensiv for nothing ? :s

PS: my english is bad

i am positive that the 1gb/speed issue will be fixed soon.
Maybe you could buy a cheap 256/512mb one until than.

Ok, flame me and cut me down, but excusing bugs in the firmware or manufacturing issues or whatever by saying it's "our" fault for wanting the GP2X on time is quite frankly ridiculous.

The GP2X is not being knocked together in a garage somewhere for our benefit, it's a serious commercial enterprise manufactured by a company that is placing it's reputation on the line with this new product and also competiting with other established and upcoming products.

It's not "our" fault if GPH has not been able to meet it's own deadline, or that it has chosen to rush the units out before they have been properly tested. The same mentality here that we should forgive any problems because GPH are doing it all for us would also have excused them if they had come forth and admitted that there were issues with the first batch of units rather than a series of vague delays that caused the frustration that you attribute to GPH rushing the units out in the end.

Seriously, I know that these problems probably aren't nearly as bad as they seem, and I know that the GP32 also had it's own issues when it was released. I'm not coming down hard on GPH here, don't get me wrong.

For the community to take the responsibility and excuse any issues with the GP2X, for me that's a cop out and isn't going to get GPH to respect their customers any more than a lollipop is going to placate the lucky user of one of the first 500 units that started this thread.

I'm glad I didn't pre-order, and I may order a GP2X now when all the bugs have been ironed out. In the meantime I'm happy I have my GP32 Blu+, it's an excellent gadget that has matured into an amazing handheld, and as far as I'm concerned there's a lot of life left in it.

BTW, I love the GP32 Taiwanese screen, it's incredibly sharp and clear

please tell me the incompatibility of 2 Gb SD card is only a little problem of firmware !

it is a limitation of the driver that gph sayd wil be fixed.

omg omg why they didn't tell us about it ! GrRrr ultra low batterie ( you can't watch a movie .. ) and now this ? i really hope that will be fixed in 1 week MAX !

You should "expect" things like that as a early adopter,
also i think the battery problem ist as critical as said and the ones complaining about 2hour batetry life are just useing crap batterys.
http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=294179

The "deadline" was never firm though was it? It was always "we hope" to ship by Nov 4th. Maybe I'm wrong.

Why I made that "ridiculous" comment was the sequence of events:

1) short delay announced so they can fix the Windows recognizing USB device issue.

2) customers complain vehemently and threaten to cancel orders.

3) GPH fix the USB issue, but in doing so they create other firmware bugs which they don't take the time to test due to consumer pressure.

I agree that GPH are at fault for the last part, but it never would have occurred if those few people who cancelled orders were more patient. It's a commercial reality that release dates are flexible, and it's more important to get something right than to rush it out. Unfortunately GPH aren't big/strong enough to risk losing customers to do so. Witness Microsoft horribly dicking around their customers for the 360.



Have you had the chance to compare it to the regular BLU? I'm interested to know if there's a visible difference. Either way, it'll be great.

OMG I can't believe all these problems now coming up.

I have just cancelled my order, will try and sell my 2GB SD Card to my m8 for his camera.

What a bunch of amatures, gonna pick up a PSP now instead.

you traitor!!!!!

Chill, people.

gp2brew, I'm pretty sure GPH never gave a launch-date, a launch-month at most... oct-nov, and when people didn't get theirs by the end of oct, they started whining...

I think its right to cancel if you are unsure, else you may just be pissed after, and annoy others.
Preorder is realy only for the people who can live with such foults and know what to expect.

A little strong don't you think...?

Spending too much money on a product with this many problems.

GP2X.........................£129
2GB SD Card................£75
Rechargable Batteries
& Charger.....................£30

I dont realy see any huge problems.

Ah, the famous Sony UMD catapult? Mind the buttons, I hear they had problems with those at launch... And don't commit any crimes with it, that shiny surface is a forensic experts dream...

hello ? Battery life ? SD card ? Screen bug ? When the PSP was released there was a LOT of whining people because they had "3 little dead pixel" ... this is nothing compared to the GP2X problem. Ok now if everything is only a problem of driver and firmware i appologize but if that was as simple as this why they didn't wait 1 or 2 more week for sell it ..

PS: sorry for my poor english again

dead pixels = not fixable
software issues = will be fixed
I explained the battery life issue, its proapbly couse of cheapass batterys used.
Sd card will be fixed in a update.
Screen is fine, only software related, there ware people that wined about the gp32 screen couse it showed scrambled stuff when turned off (wish is completely normal for lcd's).

As I said, GPH were very vague about the release dates and these delays they were never really up-front about caused the frustration that you say led them to rushing the units out.

Ok, firstly I'd hardly say that releasing the GP2X after several delays could be called rushing them out.

Secondly I doubt that a few unhappy customers really led them to "rushing" the units out at all.

Finally, if they'd been very open and honest about the issues involved, I'm sure we all would have been less anxious and more happy. Wouldn't you agree with that?



You think? I think it's much more likely that they just didn't test the units thoroughly, that makes sense doesn't it?

There was a delay already, the USB issue was at least something that the community could identify with and I think let GPH off the hook at that point somewhat. What is better for your customers and your business, rushing the units out assuming that they're fine or spending a DAY at least testing them to ensure quality control.

Seriously, how long did it take their own first 500 korean users to spot these bugs? Wouldn't you think then that GPH could have easily spotted these bugs themselves before shipping? I'm not implying that they did notice the bugs and ship them out anyway, however, not at all.



You're taking the blame on behalf of the community again even when you admit that GPH are in some way at fault. GPH could have been "big" enough to admit that the GP2X wasn't actually ready for release, told the community and their own countrymen that the device needed more testing, and I'm sure we would have been forgiving.

You seem to think differently, for me honesty and courage in the face of adversity go a long way.



Nope, I'm a proud first owner of a GP32 Blu +, lucky enough to have missed the years of other issues and problems in the manufacturing and release of other GamePark units.

All of that said, I seriously have the highest regard for GPH and what they have achieved. I just hope that there can be some more direct communication with the community in future, because we're the lifeblood of their console.

Too bad there's not going to be any more GP32 units produced. Although the *other* GamePark does own the license I believe, so maybe if we all take a step back from GPH fandom we could see if they're interested in producing more.

Now I ramble and go off-topic. Please consider.

i cross finger and hope for an update of SD card as soon as possible
thx for infos

Everyone needs to quit their bitching. If you don't like what you're reading about 'possible firmware issues', don't buy a GP2X. The GP2X isn't a PSP, it's designed for developers more than end users, and you need to have both patience and some common knowledge to use it.

If you don't like this, then the GP2X/GP2X community isn't for you.

Have there been any reports of dead pixels?
I haven't heard of anything like that yet.
Hope not

common don't be to arrogant and stupid when you buy a console for 160$ you want a console who work. "On paper" battery life for video 8H and "14H" for gaming and at the end battery life is 2H max you can be a "little" angry . Now if you can't accept opinion of other maybe it's YOU who have not his place here because it's a community and everyone can give his opinion...

http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=294217

i feel much better thx now plz give me an url of GP Holding new upgrade for SD card 2Gb

I don't see a problem at all. I'm looking forward to getting it just as much as I was before. People need to stop complaining.

It's using the same LCD as the GP32 BLU+, for which I have never heard a single report of any dead pixels. It's pretty safe to assume it won't be an issue.

I think GPH have more than gone out of their way to accomodate all our wishes, whining and general crap. In any new product or system, there's bugs and glitches to iron out. And even the best designs can be imperfect the first time out. Normally this is done before release, true, but we were SO busy slamming them with "When is the release?" and "Why don't you add this?"

With all the additions, testing, delays and setbacks, if they hadn't been so eager to please the lot of us, and if they got less bitching from us when they announced a delay or setback, they might have delayed it a bit more and got most of the bugs worked out with the developers that have the dev machines.

I agree that this is "OUR" fault. Not the patient ones, with reasonable expectations so much.

I doubt there'll be many dead pixels.

acura, writer of this post is 16 year-old xgp wannabe and rumor maker and fucking crap.
he hates emul scene and always piss him off. dont care.

Well, fair enough I can see where you guys are coming from, but I'm not taking any of the blame

It's not my fault I say!

Anyways, I think I did make valid points, and now I'll burn my soapbox and hide somewhere safe

mine has NONE dead-pixel and Crystal Clear LCD.

those are just small firmware bugs. and already announced. nothing serious.

I apologise for being abrasive, but I was annoyed.

They have. My O button squeeks when pressing



Okay, I'm one of the early PSP buyers.
And I've never seen such low quality-device.

The O-button squeeks terrible, I have over 10 stuck multicolored pixels in the middle of my screen (and at one place, so they can be seen pretty good!)
The stuck-pixel-fixer don't work.

I couldn't send it back, because it was an imported one.

Problem: This is NOT fixable, whereas all the firmware bugs in the gp2x are fixable.

I think they should of ironed out all the bugs before release, make sure the thing works straight out of the box.
Then the only thing that we would of had to wait for would be some decent emulators.
I think they released it early for one reason only and that is to get it out for the christmas market.
Microsoft did the same thing with there 360, Sony in europe did the same thing with PSP and Apple did with there Nano & iPod Video.
Who know this time next year it might be worth a buy, but right now it is like a lame duck.

damn - this is gonna go on for months...

do your homework noobs - this is not the same as buying from sony...

its like buying a bespoke suit - you have to get a fitting first - 6 months down the line for a select few thousand this little thing will turn into a way of life... just like my beloved gp32

untill then - chill out or go away...

begineth the cull

sPaCe

The battery issue does make me giggle, I'm ignoring it all until someone with proper 2000+mAh batteries come along and says 'It only lasts 2hrs' then I maybe concerned.

I bought one of those cheapy SD handheld video cameras on holiday, I had some Sony branded batteries I bought in a Poundland shop (for anyone that isnt from the UK, It's a shop that sells everything for £1) so I paid £1 for about 8 of these batteries, Put 2 of them into this camera and started recording etc 5mins later the batteries are dead! try another pair, 5mins later they are dead too! Use my fully charged 2000mAh ones from my digi cam and 2hrs later it's STILL recording.

In otherwords normal batteries are shit.

The rest of the issues I see as firmware faults and will be fixed ASAP so not fussed at all.

Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

So far everything I've seen is exactly what I expected, possibly a little better than expected as there are NO hardware faults reported at all.

I'm getting more excited by the day. Better order mine soon

No, christmas rush for preorders would be up to first week in December. Knowing my 2X will need new firmware and that it's not perfect at release, I'd STILL preorder, even if I had to spend a bit more time waiting.

And GPH are NOT in this for a couple quick bux, they've been trying to save us money, by not including every bloated feature out there, for a start.

Okay, some more information about why they released it.

GPH didn't think about christmas. Nope.

They once announced they will produce a new handheld.
Then everyone asked "When? When? When?"

GPH said "It should be ready by October". They never said it WILL be ready.

Well, time flew, they were developing, preorders started... the people who preordered wanted the device for their money.
So GPH said "Okay, we'll do it until October 17th!" - knowing this will be quite hard.

Then they delayed it until November, because the firmware was too buggy to release.
Some people cancelled their preorders.

Then they rushed everything, leaving some minor bugs in the firmware.
They couldn't wait any longer, because A LOT OF PEOPLE told them they will cancel their preorder, if they don't get it now!

So, what could they do? GPH is not such a big company as Sony, who doesn't care about a few preorders. Cancelled preorders could mean their death - and we would most probably never see a homebrew handheld again.

In my opinion, abandoning the gp2x because of firmware issues (and they even are only MINOR issues), that can and will be fixed, is the most stupidest thing anyone could do right now.

They basically built what we wanted, accepted suggestions and put these in - now we've got the device, and we KNOW it will rock!

nicely sayd ed :-)

TESTIFY!

Thanks.

Well, just remembered the BLU+ issues... EVERYONE said it is crap, totally useless, GP can't do this, it's faulty...

Now, anyone still having SERIOUS problems with their BLU+?