NILL
Nov 21 2005, 11:23 PM
I was tell a friend of mine about how I ordered the GP2x and he flamed me about how I wa a idoit for ordering it and said that I wasted money when I could just get blank GBA cartridges and load games on to it. He said this with out ever really knowing about the GP2x. He said that theres a program that will convert and load any 32-bit 2D game. I know this is a down right lie, but is there anything tha even comes close to doing this? And what is the CPU, max room for games(only GBA, i don't think the GP2x has any max other than the SD card or USB storage unit) and resloution spec on the both of them? I couldn't find the speed of the GBA anywere, just that it had a ARM CPU.
FabreNZ
Nov 21 2005, 11:30 PM
The GP2X is much, much, MUCH more powerful than the GBA. The GBA has a 16 MHz ARM7, 256 KB total RAM, a 240x160 screen, etc. They really are incomparable.
iignotus
Nov 21 2005, 11:31 PM
GBA has a resolution of 240x160, and can take any sized memory-card-to-flash-cart-adapter (usually around 1gb). There is no such thing (that I can think of) that converts 2D 32-bit games. It just.... no.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBA#ProcessorsTell your friend that the GP2X is much, MUCH faster and has more potential than the GBA. Check my sig for The Wiki link for info on the GP2X.
GunPei2X
Nov 21 2005, 11:38 PM
GBA can't even emulate PC Engine properly. Hell, it even struggles emulating GBC (which it can play natively)!
GBA is *fantastic* for GBA games (of which there are many good ones), but emulation is a total waste of time because a) it just doesn't have the grunt to run much, and more importantly

the screen is too low res!
Ryuuzaki
Nov 21 2005, 11:39 PM
gba > gp2x ? Lol
Vimacs
Nov 21 2005, 11:39 PM
if you want commercial gba games get a gba, if you want commercial psp games get a psp, if you want grea homebrew and emulators and the ability to play movies get a gp32 or gp2x.
hired gun
Nov 21 2005, 11:48 PM
QUOTE(Vimacs @ Nov 22 2005, 12:39 AM)
if you want commercial gba games get a gba, if you want commercial psp games get a psp, if you want grea homebrew and emulators and the ability to play movies get a gp32 or gp2x.
Couldn't have said it any better myself, so I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL, H.G.
yaustar
Nov 22 2005, 12:08 AM
The closest you can get is the SNES emulator which is 16 bit. I cant think of a 32 bit console that is emulated on it.
hired gun
Nov 22 2005, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(yaustar @ Nov 22 2005, 01:08 AM)
The closest you can get is the SNES emulator which is 16 bit. I cant think of a 32 bit console that is emulated on it.
The "working" emus that I have used are for the G.G. SMS, NES, and a decent version of the SNES that played Super Pang quite well. As far as the MD, NGPC, WS, ect, I think most experts have concluded that it's impossible. H.G.
dpoarch
Nov 22 2005, 12:36 AM
Wasn't there a megaman game for snes that was 32 bits? I think it was only released in Japan though. It was like megaman 9 or something and you could be bass or megaman. Even though I dont know if it was playable on the gp32....
edit: nvm it was megaman 8 for playstation.
NILL
Nov 22 2005, 12:48 AM
Thats what I though. And for my purposes the GP2x would be much better. But whats the resloution of that GP2x, sorry if it's posted on the site? I just couldn't find it there.
Epsilon
Nov 22 2005, 12:48 AM
QUOTE(dpoarch @ Nov 22 2005, 01:36 AM)
Wasn't there a megaman game for snes that was 32 bits? I think it was only released in Japan though. It was like megaman 9 or something and you could be bass or megaman. Even though I dont know if it was playable on the gp32....
Lol? it was a 16bit console, how would you for instance run 64 bit code on your 32 bit processor without emulation? even in doing so it would be quite useless as the snes didn't have the power to emulate the extra registers.....LIES!
Yuglooc
Nov 22 2005, 12:49 AM
This reminds me of someone in my class, I sat today watching a movie in class, and he come up to me saying, "Is that one of those budget psp's", Man I wanted to smack him dead >_<
Vimacs
Nov 22 2005, 12:52 AM
why didnt you?
Yuglooc
Nov 22 2005, 12:54 AM
I don't know, but I know I regret it.
iignotus
Nov 22 2005, 12:58 AM
QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Nov 21 2005, 07:49 PM)
This reminds me of someone in my class, I sat today watching a movie in class, and he come up to me saying, "Is that one of those budget psp's", Man I wanted to smack him dead >_<
Holy crap! The same thing happened to me. I brought mine to school and this kid saw it and, well, here's the conversation we had:
QUOTE
Him: Yo iz dat sum psp?
Me: No. It's a GP2X.
Him: Nawww, it's a psp!
Me: No.
Him: Yaaaa it is!
Me: GP2X. From Korea.
Him: Oh lawd dats sum psps!
Me: Bye.
junker
Nov 22 2005, 01:45 AM
QUOTE(dpoarch @ Nov 22 2005, 12:36 AM)
Wasn't there a megaman game for snes that was 32 bits? I think it was only released in Japan though. It was like megaman 9 or something and you could be bass or megaman. Even though I dont know if it was playable on the gp32....
edit: nvm it was megaman 8 for playstation.
rockman & forte aka megaman & bass
GREAT megaman game! on the top list for sure

has everything that makes megaman games good.
it's megaman 9 by the way, was released on the snes after megaman 8.
well, considered megaman 9 anyway.
iignotus
Nov 22 2005, 01:57 AM
QUOTE(junker @ Nov 21 2005, 08:45 PM)
QUOTE(dpoarch @ Nov 22 2005, 12:36 AM)
Wasn't there a megaman game for snes that was 32 bits? I think it was only released in Japan though. It was like megaman 9 or something and you could be bass or megaman. Even though I dont know if it was playable on the gp32....
edit: nvm it was megaman 8 for playstation.
rockman & forte aka megaman & bass
GREAT megaman game! on the top list for sure

has everything that makes megaman games good.
it's megaman 9 by the way, was released on the snes after megaman 8.
well, considered megaman 9 anyway.
What? Obviously you're not replying that there was a 32-bit game for the SNES, so what does your post convey?
PSyMastR
Nov 22 2005, 01:57 AM
QUOTE(iignotus @ Nov 21 2005, 07:58 PM)
Holy crap! The same thing happened to me. I brought mine to school and this kid saw it and, well, here's the conversation we had:
QUOTE
Him: Yo iz dat sum psp?
Me: No. It's a GP2X.
Him: Nawww, it's a psp!
Me: No.
Him: Yaaaa it is!
Me: GP2X. From Korea.
Him: Oh lawd dats sum psps!
Me: Bye.
That kid speaks like... um... ya...
Eolair
Nov 22 2005, 02:01 AM
QUOTE(iignotus @ Nov 22 2005, 02:58 AM)
QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Nov 21 2005, 07:49 PM)
This reminds me of someone in my class, I sat today watching a movie in class, and he come up to me saying, "Is that one of those budget psp's", Man I wanted to smack him dead >_<
Holy crap! The same thing happened to me. I brought mine to school and this kid saw it and, well, here's the conversation we had:
QUOTE
Him: Yo iz dat sum psp?
Me: No. It's a GP2X.
Him: Nawww, it's a psp!
Me: No.
Him: Yaaaa it is!
Me: GP2X. From Korea.
Him: Oh lawd dats sum psps!
Me: Bye.
PSyMastR
Nov 22 2005, 02:03 AM
Its different in my school. People respect my word on all things electronics there (Probably because I know a hell of a lot, except for DCGM, he thinks im a moron). If I tell many people that its a kickass system, they'll listen.
junker
Nov 22 2005, 02:15 AM
QUOTE(iignotus @ Nov 22 2005, 01:57 AM)
QUOTE(junker @ Nov 21 2005, 08:45 PM)
QUOTE(dpoarch @ Nov 22 2005, 12:36 AM)
Wasn't there a megaman game for snes that was 32 bits? I think it was only released in Japan though. It was like megaman 9 or something and you could be bass or megaman. Even though I dont know if it was playable on the gp32....
edit: nvm it was megaman 8 for playstation.
rockman & forte aka megaman & bass
GREAT megaman game! on the top list for sure

has everything that makes megaman games good.
it's megaman 9 by the way, was released on the snes after megaman 8.
well, considered megaman 9 anyway.
What? Obviously you're not replying that there was a 32-bit game for the SNES, so what does your post convey?
nah, just naming that game for him
Ravnos
Nov 22 2005, 02:30 AM
QUOTE(iignotus @ Nov 21 2005, 05:58 PM)
QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Nov 21 2005, 07:49 PM)
This reminds me of someone in my class, I sat today watching a movie in class, and he come up to me saying, "Is that one of those budget psp's", Man I wanted to smack him dead >_<
Holy crap! The same thing happened to me. I brought mine to school and this kid saw it and, well, here's the conversation we had:
QUOTE
Him: Yo iz dat sum psp?
Me: No. It's a GP2X.
Him: Nawww, it's a psp!
Me: No.
Him: Yaaaa it is!
Me: GP2X. From Korea.
Him: Oh lawd dats sum psps!
Me: Bye.
You should have stabbed him. If I had been there, you could have borrowed my knife.
Mark1970
Nov 22 2005, 10:19 AM
QUOTE(gaterooze @ Nov 21 2005, 11:38 PM)
GBA can't even emulate PC Engine properly. Hell, it even struggles emulating GBC (which it can play natively)!
GBA is *fantastic* for GBA games (of which there are many good ones), but emulation is a total waste of time because a) it just doesn't have the grunt to run much, and more importantly

the screen is too low res!
Flubba's gb, sms and nes emulators are great and run full speed on the gba! Due to neat resizing trick it does fit the entire screen onto the tiny gba's. If you want to emulate those, get one of those gba movie players supporting smartmedia cards and run the emulators from there.
NILL
Nov 23 2005, 04:03 AM
Now hes claiming that dual 200 mhz is over kill for a 2D game console and 17 mhz is enough. Not to mention he ignored the video capability. And he tells me I'm the stubborn one.
Vimacs
Nov 23 2005, 04:11 AM
cute
PSyMastR
Nov 23 2005, 05:26 AM
QUOTE(NILL @ Nov 22 2005, 11:03 PM)
Now hes claiming that dual 200 mhz is over kill for a 2D game console and 17 mhz is enough. Not to mention he ignored the video capability. And he tells me I'm the stubborn one.
*Cocks Shotgun*
Whats his address?
Spank
Nov 23 2005, 05:32 AM
TheTurnipKing
Nov 23 2005, 05:42 AM
To give the GBA it's dues, it's pretty damn impressive what can be achieved on a GBA. It's a mature platform with a lot of freely available (unofficial) dev-tools and no operating system to get between the coder and the hardware.
I can even sort of see his argument, because I'd have liked to own a GP32 years ago, but there was no way I could justify it: No commercial releases and I already owned a GBA with a flash card.
On the hardware's own merit, there's NO denying that the 2X and 32 blow the GBA right out of the water, though.
NILL
Nov 23 2005, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(TheTurnipKing @ Nov 23 2005, 05:42 AM)
To give the GBA it's dues, it's pretty damn impressive what can be achieved on a GBA. It's a mature platform with a lot of freely available (unofficial) dev-tools and no operating system to get between the coder and the hardware.
I can even sort of see his argument, because I'd have liked to own a GP32 years ago, but there was no way I could justify it: No commercial releases and I already owned a GBA with a flash card.
On the hardware's own merit, there's NO denying that the 2X and 32 blow the GBA right out of the water, though.
I'm not disreagarding the GBA as a good game console. But consoles have always get more from their hardware.
geniv
Nov 23 2005, 11:00 PM
QUOTE(Yuglooc @ Nov 21 2005, 08:54 PM)
I don't know, but I know I regret it.
It's not nice to abuse mentally retarded people..
AireTamStorm
Nov 23 2005, 11:04 PM
As I was ordering it, my brother from behind my shoulder asks:
"Is that an iPod?"
I responded:
"..."
then:
"..."
then:
"...just leave already."
g4m3r
Nov 23 2005, 11:18 PM
The problem is that the GP2X is way to awesome for people to understand! Since only people who understand something called "technology" can handle the awesomeness. See the charts...
DS - 10% Awesome
PSP - 20% Awesome
GP2X - 70% Awesome
People can only handle around 50% awesomeness.
So obviously they overload when they see the GP2X mistaking it for something less awesome
x68000
Nov 24 2005, 12:54 AM
that last post was, 'awesome'
chris_r
Nov 24 2005, 12:56 AM
Its kinda like when Im listening to my zen micro and people are like "Is that the new ipod". I just feel like punching them there and then
DijiTao
Nov 24 2005, 12:58 AM
awesomeness...
...
The problem is too many people getting the GP2X who don't really know what their getting into – the device isn't for the faint of heart.... yet...
junker
Nov 24 2005, 01:03 AM
QUOTE(g4m3r @ Nov 23 2005, 11:18 PM)
The problem is that the GP2X is way to awesome for people to understand! Since only people who understand something called "technology" can handle the awesomeness. See the charts...
DS - 10% Awesome
PSP - 20% Awesome
GP2X - 70% Awesome
People can only handle around 50% awesomeness.
So obviously they overload when they see the GP2X mistaking it for something less awesome


>=]
yeah, not for mainstream just yet,
g4m3r
Nov 24 2005, 04:01 AM
QUOTE(junker @ Nov 23 2005, 06:03 PM)
QUOTE(g4m3r @ Nov 23 2005, 11:18 PM)
The problem is that the GP2X is way to awesome for people to understand! Since only people who understand something called "technology" can handle the awesomeness. See the charts...
DS - 10% Awesome
PSP - 20% Awesome
GP2X - 70% Awesome
People can only handle around 50% awesomeness.
So obviously they overload when they see the GP2X mistaking it for something less awesome


>=]
yeah, not for mainstream just yet,

It's just to sudden. nice and easy
Mr Doctor
Nov 24 2005, 04:08 AM
QUOTE(g4m3r @ Nov 24 2005, 12:18 AM)
DS - 10% Awesome
PSP - 20% Awesome
GP2X - 70% Awesome
Haha, PSPs more like 20% awsome, DS 60% ¬__¬ PSP really is a heap of rubbish.
[Sony] = [Style] > [Substance] x [Lackoffun]
g4m3r
Nov 24 2005, 04:10 AM
QUOTE(Mr Doctor @ Nov 23 2005, 09:08 PM)
QUOTE(g4m3r @ Nov 24 2005, 12:18 AM)
DS - 10% Awesome
PSP - 20% Awesome
GP2X - 70% Awesome
Haha, PSPs more like 20% awsome, DS 60% ¬__¬ PSP really is a heap of rubbish.
[Sony] = [Style] > [Substance] x [Lackoffun]

Sorry I just went by popularity, since I don't have a PSP
junker
Nov 24 2005, 04:26 AM
[Sony] = [Style] > [Substance] x [Lackoffun]
the psp is exactly that
x68000
Nov 24 2005, 08:01 AM
QUOTE(junker @ Nov 24 2005, 05:26 AM)
[Sony] = [Style] > [Substance] x [Lackoffun]
the psp is exactly that

that sounds a lot like the ps2 and the psx as well!
Mr Doctor
Nov 24 2005, 08:21 AM
Let me ammend it a bit...
[Sony] = [Style] > [Substance] x [Lackoffun] + [Shoddybuildquality]

Anyone ever see the video of dragging a gamecube on a rope behind a car for like, half a mile.... then testing it and it still prettu much worked! Ninty = win!
*looks round at glaring eyes*
Ahem.... GPH are... quite good,.... too......
Yuglooc
Nov 24 2005, 09:29 AM
The DS really is awesome too...
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