wipeout2000
Mar 18 2006, 06:29 AM
I know there is a forum dedicated to people that just got their gp2x but i wanted to post this up to encourage people to get it incase they are uncertain about getting a gp2x.
First off I recently gave in and decided to buy it. I bought it with everything. It's a lot smaller than I expected. It is built better than some people say and it is somewhat stable. Chances are if you play around with the setting and the programs too much it will crash. Game Park seems to be stabalizing it more with the newer firmwares so in a couple of months it should be in really good shape. It is worth getting now though. I am very very happy with it. I am glad that I am finally part of the community and I'm even more glad that I can watch movies and listen to music and play games all on this thing.
My cousin was even thinking about getting one he was so impressed. He really liked metal slug. So much for ipod video. So if you are considering about getting it and heard a lot of rumors that the thing breaks down, thats not true so much anymore. The latest shipments seem to be of a better build and the battery life is getting better and better. Oh yea and the screen looks BEAUTIFUL. Sorry for all the picky people out there but I feel like I got my moneys worth, now if only Game Park could hurry up with those updates....
PS. Please dont flame if you think I was repeating the obvious, this is meant for people who still aren't sure...
iignotus
Mar 18 2006, 06:35 AM
Glad you like it. We do
airwolf
Mar 18 2006, 08:01 AM
I disagree with you wipeout. The only reason to get this unit is for emulation. If you are not into emulation then dont waste your money. With an AC adapter, memory card, and DaveC's cap you will be in for over $275. With the XGP and the miniXGP coming, you must be a hardcore emulation person...like me!
The joystick on this thing is horrible. Even with DaveC's cap it still sucks. Any game that requires 4-way movement with be a nightmare. You have to push the stick so far just for it to make contact, its just rediculous. It remind me of the days when I had an Atari 5200 SuperSystem and had to clean the contacts on the controllers every 2 days just to play games. LOL.
Something I just noticed...the best pad on a handheld system is the Sega Nomad. That pad in absolutely perfect. We need that pad in this system. I sure hope Radek can fix what Gamepark Holding's engineers couldn't....................
wipeout2000
Mar 18 2006, 08:17 AM
Well you are kind of right with the pad. If you are a novice gamer (like myself) the pad is really not that that bad. I can even play street fighter with it. The media is really a great plus tho.
As for the xgp, just get a psp instead. Psp has everything it has but better. The screen stinks for emulation and homebrew. Might be better for media (has a bigger screen). And the xgp is gonna have a joystick too. XGP mini is a different story but who knows whats gonna happen with that.
I dunno I've really fallen in love with my gp2x. I just hope the community continues thriving.
airwolf
Mar 18 2006, 08:31 AM
QUOTE(wipeout2000 @ Mar 18 2006, 02:17 AM)
Well you are kind of right with the pad. If you are a novice gamer (like myself) the pad is really not that that bad. I can even play street fighter with it. The media is really a great plus tho.
As for the xgp, just get a psp instead. Psp has everything it has but better. The screen stinks for emulation and homebrew. Might be better for media (has a bigger screen). And the xgp is gonna have a joystick too. XGP mini is a different story but who knows whats gonna happen with that.
I dunno I've really fallen in love with my gp2x. I just hope the community continues thriving.
I have a PSP. 1.5 firmware. Run ISOs all the time...hehe. SNES runs just about perfect on the PSP now. NeoGeoCD is perfect...60fps w/sound. The only place where the GP2X beats it is Genesis/Megadrive and MAME and Atari 5200/7800...in terms of speaking only about emulation. GP2X is perfect for Genesis, except for that damn joystick. The screen is better than PSP too and better than my Sega Nomad even, but not the pad. I have great hopes for the GP2X though. My fingers are crossed.......
By the way....hello!
The Spider Mastermind
Mar 18 2006, 11:05 AM
#DEFINE GP2X_STICK_IS_BETTER_THAN_ALL_YOU_SONS_OF_BITCHES 1
PokeParadox
Mar 18 2006, 11:36 AM
I really don't get the deal with the joystick... The way I see it is:
It sucks at first (because we are used to Dpad/analogue) but then you get used to it.
I really don't understand all this song and dance about how bad it is, when all is said and done it's a digital thumbstick...
Example: Playing Beat2X you need to hit directions properly and on beat... using the stick I can do this...
guilleml
Mar 18 2006, 11:53 AM
I like my gp2x, I like emulators, and I love gp2x games...yes! not just for emulators, I really like beat2x, noiz2sa, frozenbubble...
I have no problems with the stick, yesterday I made the pen-mod to try and it works fine, the stick is taller so acts as a lever and now it is softer and of course, I can do each movement without problems.
And about XGP...XGP is a project, just vapor for now, it is not an option.
Paradox
Mar 18 2006, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(PokeParadox @ Mar 18 2006, 11:36 AM)
I really don't get the deal with the joystick... The way I see it is:
It sucks at first (because we are used to Dpad/analogue) but then you get used to it.
I really don't understand all this song and dance about how bad it is, when all is said and done it's a digital thumbstick...
Example: Playing Beat2X you need to hit directions properly and on beat... using the stick I can do this...
you must have some magical good joystick thats better than everyone elses.
Sonistar
Mar 18 2006, 12:56 PM
yay wipeout i told you that you'de like it,
i quite like the stick guys, feels (kinda) like the dreamcast, and i liked that analog stick.
(naw)mcx
Mar 18 2006, 12:57 PM
Oh god that remindes me.... I need a Dreamcast!
And glad you like the gp2x!
Sonistar
Mar 18 2006, 12:59 PM
aww man get a dreamcast their amazing.
pcklee123
Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM
I like the gp2x but i feel cheated cause:
It has 2 cpu cores but you can only use one of it.
It has 64M ram but you can only use half of it.
It has USB2 but you can only use it with USB 1.1
nickspoon
Mar 18 2006, 01:12 PM
I also need a Dreamcast.
What some people here forget about (the 'some' includes airwolf) is that there is more to GP2X gaming than emulation. With the PSP, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has poured their heart and soul (yay for cliches) into a really original and fun game. I personally have enjoyed games such as Tilematch, Beat2X and Spout more than I enjoyed emulators. Not saying that the GP2X isn't brilliant for emulation too, but what really gives it the advantage is the unique community behind it, and the fact that nobody here is unable to write a game or program if they want to.
That's what really sealed it for me. I love this community. I was part of the ps2-scene community at one point, but gave up because it was clearly never going to be as excellent as the GP32/GP2X community. The community is what sets the GP2X apart from other consoles.
deadlychicken22
Mar 18 2006, 02:16 PM
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
I like the gp2x but i feel cheated cause:
It has 2 cpu cores but you can only use one of it.
actually, you can use both of them. They just haven't been used for anything productive YET.
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
It has 64M ram but you can only use half of it.
Actually, I'm pretty sure you can use it all. Problem is, linux uses some of it (but it is still being used!)
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
It has USB2 but you can only use it with USB 1.1
Yeah, gamepark screwed up usb support on the gp32 as well, but an alternative program to run while connecting to usb fixed it. Hopefully this will happen for the gp2x as well.
iignotus
Mar 18 2006, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(nickspoon @ Mar 18 2006, 08:12 AM)
I just got a dreamcast w/ 2 controllers, 2 vmus, and 8 games for $30 USD

Having friends who aren't into to retro gaming is awesome

I think I may pick up his N64 too...
(naw)mcx
Mar 18 2006, 02:47 PM
What games...?
Sonistar
Mar 18 2006, 04:41 PM
get jet set radio, god that game owns.
triton
Mar 18 2006, 05:02 PM
i really dont see why people ahve such huge problems with the stick, its not perfect but it works ok for most things, i can beat gunstar heroes in drmd witht he stock stick and cap, i can play beat2x fine with it, i can get over 1000 height in spout. to me its a non issue, i need a new cap (lost mine at school >.< ) but other than that it serves me just fine
DaveC
Mar 18 2006, 05:45 PM
To me the stick is not THAT bad. It is not the best but it isn't unuseable. It was horrible with the stock cap so that may be part of the problem for those still using that. To those that have my cap, make sure it is installed low enough. If it is too high the dead zone will be too much.
wipeout2000
Mar 18 2006, 06:49 PM
QUOTE(deadlychicken22 @ Mar 18 2006, 02:16 PM)
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
I like the gp2x but i feel cheated cause:
It has 2 cpu cores but you can only use one of it.
actually, you can use both of them. They just haven't been used for anything productive YET.
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
It has 64M ram but you can only use half of it.
Actually, I'm pretty sure you can use it all. Problem is, linux uses some of it (but it is still being used!)
QUOTE(pcklee123 @ Mar 18 2006, 01:09 PM)
It has USB2 but you can only use it with USB 1.1
Yeah, gamepark screwed up usb support on the gp32 as well, but an alternative program to run while connecting to usb fixed it. Hopefully this will happen for the gp2x as well.
Well right now there is a program that Gamepark Holdings is distributing called usb monitor. It might solve the USB detection problems that a lot of people are having. Go to
http://www.gp2x.com to download it and give it a try. It might solve a lot of usb issues...
Phil
Mar 18 2006, 07:31 PM
What I think is crazy is that most people don't realise the nutty progress that has been made already.
If you look back at the GP32 it only really got going a year after it was relesed.
Poobik The Hare
Mar 18 2006, 08:56 PM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 08:31 AM)
GP2X is perfect for Genesis, except for that damn joystick.
so the most important part of the GP2 lets the emu down and yet you think it's perfect for Genesis.
iignotus
Mar 18 2006, 09:17 PM
QUOTE((naw)mcx @ Mar 18 2006, 09:47 AM)
Seaman
Sega Smashpack
NFL 2K1
Toy Commander
ReVolt
Skies of Arcadia
AeroWings
NBA 2K
Speed Devils
Demolition Racer
A bit more than 8 games I guess lol.
I also just bought Jet Set Radio and Sega GT for $8 shipped in total. I'm looking for the Shenmues and the Sonic Adventures, along with anything else that's good. Any offers, PM me

Sorry to get offtopic
kardasan
Mar 18 2006, 10:09 PM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 10:31 AM)
**CUT**
I have a PSP. 1.5 firmware. Run ISOs all the time...hehe. SNES runs just about perfect on the PSP now. NeoGeoCD is perfect...60fps w/sound. The only place where the GP2X beats it is Genesis/Megadrive and MAME and Atari 5200/7800...in terms of speaking only about emulation. GP2X is perfect for Genesis, except for that damn joystick. The screen is better than PSP too and better than my Sega Nomad even, but not the pad. I have great hopes for the GP2X though. My fingers are crossed.......
First of all, Sony sux if it comes to developing things. They hide their internals the best they can. GP2X it linux based and this opens a milion of possibilities, although calling it a gaming device is little too much. I think "developer-gamer device" would be more acurate. Anyway, as long as the glitches in gp2x are system based, we can fix it. in worst case one will have to jtag his unit, which is not THAT bad. With psp every app you will do without kissing Sony's ass will be not legal. That sucks...but mayby it's just me
Huxley
Mar 18 2006, 11:53 PM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 08:31 AM)
I have a PSP. 1.5 firmware. Run ISOs all the time...hehe. SNES runs just about perfect on the PSP now. NeoGeoCD is perfect...60fps w/sound. The only place where the GP2X beats it is Genesis/Megadrive and MAME and Atari 5200/7800...in terms of speaking only about emulation.
It beats the PSP on NeoGeo emulation also. Pepone's GnGeo2X is an MVS emulator which means we get a much bigger catalogue of games, most of which run at close to full speed. If you want emulation, I don't see much reason to pick up a PSP anymore.
DaveC
Mar 19 2006, 04:25 AM
QUOTE(Huxley @ Mar 18 2006, 11:53 PM)
... If you want emulation, I don't see much reason to pick up a PSP anymore.
SNES maybe, that is far better on the PSP and so is PC-engine. Hopefully the PC-engine will become as good someday on the gp2X.
Knoxximus
Mar 19 2006, 04:29 AM
It's all good....PSP'ers can have the SNES on that crappy, blurry, stretched out screen...we have *perfect* NeoGeo MVS on a be-YOU-tiful screen!
Can I get an amen?
PSyMastR
Mar 19 2006, 04:33 AM
AAAHHHHH-MEN!
airwolf
Mar 19 2006, 04:52 AM
QUOTE(DaveC @ Mar 18 2006, 11:45 AM)
To me the stick is not THAT bad. It is not the best but it isn't unuseable. It was horrible with the stock cap so that may be part of the problem for those still using that. To those that have my cap, make sure it is installed low enough. If it is too high the dead zone will be too much.
Ya, but Dave, I think your stick needs to be revised a little.
First, the stick feels good, but the material used to make the stick still does not cut it for 'sticking' to your thumb for accurate movement. My thumb tends to move around somewhat inside the concave to much.
Second, there should be some sort of raised arrows or raised bumps for the NSEW cardinal directions. This would aid in getting a little more accurate feel on the thumbstick for trying to hit those all important directions for lots of games that need it. It would also assist us for trying to avoid diagonals when we dont want them to register.
Lastly, I did notice to install the stick a little lower, but if you do, the stick tends to hit the edges of the casing just below the stick. I think the thumb portion of the stick should have a smaller diameter. Thanks.
airwolf
Mar 19 2006, 04:58 AM
QUOTE(Poobik The Hare @ Mar 18 2006, 02:56 PM)
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 08:31 AM)
GP2X is perfect for Genesis, except for that damn joystick.
so the most important part of the GP2 lets the emu down and yet you think it's perfect for Genesis.

Perfect for Genesis in terms of speed. Gameplay is a different story. I made that clear as well. I love MAME and alot of the old school games are just about impossible to play because the cardinal directions are very hard to hit. You have to use the force to try and hit where you want without hitting diagonals, which is bad for games like Kangaroo, Pacman, and Frogger especially. Try it and you will see what I mean...
airwolf
Mar 19 2006, 05:10 AM
QUOTE(Huxley @ Mar 18 2006, 05:53 PM)
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 08:31 AM)
I have a PSP. 1.5 firmware. Run ISOs all the time...hehe. SNES runs just about perfect on the PSP now. NeoGeoCD is perfect...60fps w/sound. The only place where the GP2X beats it is Genesis/Megadrive and MAME and Atari 5200/7800...in terms of speaking only about emulation.
It beats the PSP on NeoGeo emulation also. Pepone's GnGeo2X is an MVS emulator which means we get a much bigger catalogue of games, most of which run at close to full speed. If you want emulation, I don't see much reason to pick up a PSP anymore.
Wrong....PSP is so much better for Neo-GeoCD emulation. All the games run at 60FPS with high quality sound. Control is better to since you can use the D-pad or analog control. I modded my D-pad on my PSP since hitting diagonals was hard to do because the PSP D-pad in sunk to low into the unit. I just cut out around the bottom of the D-pad itself and cut out 3 equal sized pieces of duct-tape and stuck all three underneath (the actual plastic D-pad-not under the membrane) to raise the D-pad a bit and now the PSP D-pad is perfect for gaming and more accurate.
Gp2X, even overclocked, cannot get 60FPS w/44khz sound with all NeoGeo games. I notice hiccups here and there on almost all games. And the fact that the AES/MVS NeoGeo emu for Gp2X has more games is almost irrelevant because there was not that many good games that were released after the CD unit to make a difference.
ingrin
Mar 19 2006, 06:28 AM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 10:52 PM)
Ya, but Dave, I think your stick needs to be revised a little.
First, the stick feels good, but the material used to make the stick still does not cut it for 'sticking' to your thumb for accurate movement. My thumb tends to move around somewhat inside the concave to much.
Have you thought about spraying it with Plasti-Dip? I've contemplated it myself, and have a can of spray, I just haven't bothered since I really like the DaveC cap as it is, My thunb doesn't really slide around as much as I thought it would.
airwolf
Mar 19 2006, 06:53 AM
QUOTE(ingrin @ Mar 19 2006, 12:28 AM)
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 18 2006, 10:52 PM)
Ya, but Dave, I think your stick needs to be revised a little.
First, the stick feels good, but the material used to make the stick still does not cut it for 'sticking' to your thumb for accurate movement. My thumb tends to move around somewhat inside the concave to much.
Have you thought about spraying it with Plasti-Dip? I've contemplated it myself, and have a can of spray, I just haven't bothered since I really like the DaveC cap as it is, My thunb doesn't really slide around as much as I thought it would.
Where can I find that product? Thanks.
ingrin
Mar 19 2006, 07:16 AM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 19 2006, 12:53 AM)
Where can I find that product? Thanks.
I got mine from Lowes (or maybe Home Depot) It was hanging out with specialty paint. I coated th orginal stick with it and it became a bit more 'grippy'. I'll experiment with my DaveC Cap and see how it works.
Huxley
Mar 19 2006, 03:20 PM
QUOTE(airwolf @ Mar 19 2006, 05:10 AM)
Wrong....PSP is so much better for Neo-GeoCD emulation.
Gp2X, even overclocked, cannot get 60FPS w/44khz sound with all NeoGeo games. I notice hiccups here and there on almost all games. And the fact that the AES/MVS NeoGeo emu for Gp2X has more games is almost irrelevant because there was not that many good games that were released after the CD unit to make a difference.
Oh my god you couldn't be more wrong.
NeoGeo games NEVER released on CD: Blazing Star, Garou: Mark of the Wolves (best Neogeo game ever?), King of Fighters 2000-2003 (which includes 2002, arguably the best in the series), Magical Drop 3, Metal Slug X, 3, 4 & 5 (ooh..lots there!), Samurai Showdown 5, Rage of the Dragons, Shock Troopers 1 & 2, Sengoku 3, Strikers 1945, SNK Vs Capcom, Waku Waku 7 (my personal fave). If you know your Neo Geo games, you know some of those are amongst the finest titles available for the platform.
And the games exclusive to CD? Ooh...let's see now. Samurai Shodown RPG, which is only available in Japanese.
QUOTE
SNES maybe, that is far better on the PSP and so is PC-engine. Hopefully the PC-engine will become as good someday on the gp2X.
And SNES I think. There might be a slight problem with transparancies, but other than that I see no reason why the GP2X shouldn't be able to handle SNES at fullspeed.
Polymira
Mar 20 2006, 03:15 PM
How can anyone say the gp2x screen is better then the PSP?
PSP == Widescreen, high res, good quality
GP2x == 4:3 (not a bad thing), clear, but wavey lines / flickering...
I'll look at the psp lcd over the gp2x for long periods of time anyday.
And i still can't believe gamepark didn't give the gp2x a sleep function with a hardware switch/button =(
kardasan
Mar 20 2006, 03:32 PM
I think "better" means more suitable for emulation, which is true and undenayable.
As for the sleep...anyone there with a linux knowledge know how to implement this? I think that i've seen suspend to ram howtos concerning laptops mayby it's also possible here, although i'm a noob in this area. How about writing whole RAM to SD and making processor go into sleep state (flame me if i'm talking stupid)?
Aninhumer
Mar 20 2006, 05:02 PM
What about the PSP ghosting?
GunPei2X
Mar 20 2006, 09:16 PM
QUOTE(Polymira)
How can anyone say the gp2x screen is better then the PSP?
PSP == Widescreen, high res, good quality
Widescreen is terrible for emulation. That, the ghosting, the awful controls, fiddly firmware hacking, and dreadful battery life kills it for me. At first I really liked it, but that "wow" factor has definitely worn off.
Any complaint about the GP2X (controls, screen, battery life), is MUCH worse on PSP.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.