craigix
Jul 20 2006, 01:51 AM
We are going to update the current press GP2X advert this month in all the magazines it runs in (about 6).
If some users want to suggest ideas or new advert designs please do so.
I was thinking of keeping the large gp2x picture at the top and at the bottom having some screen shots of new software and saying how far things have came in the last 8 months software wise (ie what you can now do on the gp2x) and talk about the BOB etc.
What do you think?
Thanks,
Craig
Crazy Goat
Jul 20 2006, 02:03 AM
I will get to work on something later tonight - I should have one done by tomorrow.
Epicenter
Jul 20 2006, 02:04 AM
Whatever it is, it should have a very long features list. The most impressive part of the '2x is the breadth of things you can do with it- the extremely wide range of systems emulated, all the portable media you can play with it, and all the additional functionality consistently being unlocked e.g. PDA functions via Qtopia, Internet functionality via connecting to a USB wifi adapter, or using it like an ARM9 computer via a breakout board or self-made adapters.
TelcoLou
Jul 20 2006, 02:17 AM
Don't use any pics of the white GP2X ... they only make it in black.
mth411
Jul 20 2006, 02:42 AM
Please show off more homebrew, and don't have images showing gp2x logo on the screen.
I love seeing pictures of the gp2x running actual games.
Maybe it running vektar withsome cool sparks, or better yet, Payback, because it is the most impressive 3d game to date.
Also, pictures of linux games linke supertux, super methane brothers, and other gpl games would be awesome for the linux crowd, and safe from the gpl licenses.
DaveC
Jul 20 2006, 02:45 AM
Be careful if mentioning emus. Doing so may get the lawyers panties in a bunch at the big N' . We don't want that.
jmetal88
Jul 20 2006, 02:47 AM
QUOTE(DaveC @ Jul 19 2006, 09:45 PM)

Be careful if mentioning emus. Doing so may get the lawyers panties in a bunch at the big N' . We don't want that.
I still prefer the phrase "knickers in a twist".
JaqMs
Jul 20 2006, 02:53 AM
Make sure to mention how recharable AA batteries have the same effectiveness as li-ion batteries, though it's too bad we can't use the "AA are available everywhere" statement anymore since the GP2X is strict about batteries.
Also, assuming most of the magazines are gaming-related, put a slightly larger focus on the games you can play on the GP2X. Perhaps photoshop a PS2 game pic onto a GP2X screen
daclassicgamingmaster
Jul 20 2006, 02:57 AM
That would be lying. And I don't feel we need to lie to sell a 2x. They're fantastic systems, and I believe they sell themselves...With the help of this community, of course. But minus you
Yono
Jul 20 2006, 03:05 AM
QUOTE(daclassicgamingmaster @ Jul 19 2006, 10:57 PM)

...With the help of this community, of course. But minus you

Haha, classic line.
Crazy Goat
Jul 20 2006, 04:32 AM
Ok - I will stress the new list of homebrew - and showing how much creativity has come from the scene in the recent months.
I will give the low-down on the hardware within the platform - and how it makes this special.
I will create a way of conveying how well the platform emulates - and give examples of full speed emulators - without any mention of illegal pirating of games, including all the proper citations, trademarks, etc.
I will feature the BoB - and how it makes the GP2X more than just an Handheld - with the mention of Qtopia - a Linux distro which features many application features common with desktop operating systems.
Possibilities for enthusiasts - Wifi through USB... (BoB)
I will not include any logos due to fact I do not know the legality of it - along with the fact that citing the company may not be enough, and I am not familar with England's laws.
It will have a simulated screen of an image of Vektar - with the proper citations, and such.
There will be the classic legal footnote - stating the ownership of the GP2X logo, and all other trademarks I have to use, like
"Playstation® is the property of SONY... etc."
(I would never mention the Playstation emulator... due to false advert.)
Anything else I forgot? I won't have time to start this tonight, I'll have to get up bright and early tomorrow and get enough done.
TyBO!
Jul 20 2006, 04:55 AM
One important thing to mention would be the loyal fan community that codes new stuff for the machine all the time. If I knew nothing about the GP2X and saw an ad for it, I'd likely think to myself, "looks cool, but there probably are no good games/apps for it."
Maybe you could put the URL to GP32x in the ad, if you're allowed to do that.
PSyMastR
Jul 20 2006, 06:25 AM
QUOTE(TyBO! @ Jul 20 2006, 12:55 AM)

One important thing to mention would be the loyal fan community that codes new stuff for the machine all the time. If I knew nothing about the GP2X and saw an ad for it, I'd likely think to myself, "looks cool, but there probably are no good games/apps for it."
Maybe you could put the URL to GP32x in the ad, if you're allowed to do that.
People would be scared away by these forums if they didn't know us lol.
tobe
Jul 20 2006, 06:37 AM
If i were to see an add for the GP2X i would first think: "cool, where can i find out about that device more". So some (small caption) links to this forum or the wiki should be included i think.
Tobriand
Jul 20 2006, 07:43 AM
It strikes me that long feature lists = lots of text, which always turn people off - despite that it's probably the crucial attraction of the GP2x. So, to get around that, why not do an immense list of program names in light grey on white as a background. The result would, hopefuly, be that people will see it, but won't feel obliged to read them all - so they'd be less likely to skim over the ad.
Just a thought.
AcidiC
Jul 20 2006, 07:55 AM
pic of the '2x and lots of little screenshots of varios applications / games... it will get their minds wondering >:)
also some text describing the main features...
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 08:21 AM
When you say "talk about", craig, it sends shivers down my spine.
Steer clear of the talking. No talking. I never check out ads laden with text, unless there is so much text I mistake it for an article (hey, now. There's an idea!).
How about a variation of the "SEX!!" trick? "FREE GAMES! - have I got your attention?" and then just a link to the website under that and a big ol' picture of the GP2X. Maybe a few paragraphs of text at the bottom to explain things. Just a loose idea, that.
Or, like we discussed in one of those other threads, go with the humour. Was it Nickspoon who suggested "The second most fun you can do with your palms." or something like that? Allude to sex, masturbation or other related things without being too specific, and people will definitely take notice.
Linux is nice, but most people I mention that to just go "uh, okay." so there's really no need to be too fixated on that, I think. At least not unless you're advertising in a Linux mag.
"What if you could still play your other games even after a firmware upgrade?" *chuckles*
"How about a firmware upgrade that benefits you?"
3.5' screen + full-size DivX playback + 200 free games + mp3 support + tv-out =
FUN!!
Tried to give you an idea of the typography on that last one, but I need BIGGER fonts for FUN! THe idea is that the additions are collected in a line as long as the ginormous word FUN!!
Marco1983
Jul 20 2006, 08:25 AM
What needs to be used in my opinion:
* Pictures of the real black MK2 model.
* Name the most important features this system has. Music, video, games, e-book, etc.
* Defenetely include some info about the BoB, including a picture of it.
* Include a link to the official website and one or two links of the largest community pages! For example, gp32x.com.
* Make a statement about "bang for bucks". Because this system can do it all, at a very reasonable price.
* Also make a statement about how nice the community is.
* People want to know where to buy something! www.gp2x.co.uk is the key here!
Just be honest about what it is. And just don't do what JaqM stated before

Edit: Ads indeed don't need whole pages of text in them. Good keywords are the key to succes! The word "free" is certainly an attention word. I defenetely suggest to use it.
Wite_Noiz
Jul 20 2006, 10:24 AM
I was thinking of a black page with a pic of the 2X in the middle (top tilted away slightly, right-hand corner raised) with a very slight reflection and then 5 or 6 screenshots in a ring around it (asin, going behind and the ones in front being larger).
The 2X would have the main logo on the screen so that people know what it is and the shots would be of homebrew.
Small white writing beneath the centred image saying "Games. Movies. Pictures. Text." and the gp2x.co.uk URL at the very bottom.
Simple and distinctive.
Maybe I'm wrong; perhaps I'll knock an example together later, if I can.
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 10:31 AM
Sounds pretty cool, Noiz.
Nemesis/112
Jul 20 2006, 10:37 AM
I like the whole GP2X tilted center with game pics around it idea, very professional. Plus you need a nice snappy caption, something like 'Powered By OpenSource, Driven By Community' although, better obviously - but you get my point.
Blah
Jul 20 2006, 10:37 AM
I would think that it would be the most important to emphasize that many high-quality games are available for free. You would need a catchy phrase though like "Why Pay For Games?" or other such variations.
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 10:42 AM
"Why Pay for Great Games"
Blah
Jul 20 2006, 10:43 AM
QUOTE(Magnulus @ Jul 20 2006, 03:42 AM)

"Why Pay for Great Games"
Exactly
Nemesis/112
Jul 20 2006, 10:49 AM
Free is good, yes you definately have to big up the whole free aspect. The trouble is you also have to big up the fact that there are commercial games, or people don't take you seriously.
It's a crazy world.
Wite_Noiz
Jul 20 2006, 11:40 AM
QUOTE(Nemesis/112 @ Jul 20 2006, 11:49 AM)

you also have to big up the fact that there are commercial games
There are?
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 11:49 AM
I don't think there's much of a point in advertising games that right now don't exist on the market.
Nemesis/112
Jul 20 2006, 11:52 AM
QUOTE(Wite_Noiz @ Jul 20 2006, 12:40 PM)

QUOTE(Nemesis/112 @ Jul 20 2006, 11:49 AM)

you also have to big up the fact that there are commercial games
There are?

Sort of, Vektar and Payback
QUOTE(Magnulus @ Jul 20 2006, 12:49 PM)

I don't think there's much of a point in advertising games that right now don't exist on the market.
You mean like other companies don't
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 11:52 AM
QUOTE(Nemesis/112 @ Jul 20 2006, 01:51 PM)

Sort of, Vektar and Payback
Those games "are" not. They "will be".
Key difference here being that Vektar SHOULD exist, but it doesn't.
garengarch
Jul 20 2006, 12:14 PM
Eight out of ten cats prefer tits.
Make sure its a glamour pic you show, to illustrate media playing
namco
Jul 20 2006, 01:00 PM
If you are going to have screenshots of games on the advert, may I suggest putting a screenshot of one of the Monkey Island games on it with something staying that its easier to get Monkey Island on the GP2X than other handhelds.
The use of scummVM games on the GP2X was one of the main reasons why I got it in the first place. I think that would attract a lot of gamers from my generation, so to speak.
Magnulus
Jul 20 2006, 02:15 PM
It has been said half a brajillion times that you just CAN'T use emulated games (ScummVM is sort of an emulator... in a way.) or games ported like Quake in an ad. The games in the ad will HAVE to be either homebrew games or one of the commercial GP2X releases.
You can tell your friends and people in general about the emulation, but you can't slap a picture of Sam&Max on an actual ad for the GP2X.
Parkydr
Jul 20 2006, 02:50 PM
Beneath a Steel Sky and Flight of the Amazon Queen are freeware
Crazy Goat
Jul 20 2006, 07:23 PM
QUOTE(Magnulus @ Jul 20 2006, 07:15 AM)

It has been said half a brajillion times that you just CAN'T use emulated games (ScummVM is sort of an emulator... in a way.) or games ported like Quake in an ad. The games in the ad will HAVE to be either homebrew games or one of the commercial GP2X releases.
You can tell your friends and people in general about the emulation, but you can't slap a picture of Sam&Max on an actual ad for the GP2X.
You can say that it emulates dozens of platforms. That way - you are not saying anything other than the fact. Not saying names, not emplying pirates. Emulation is a large part of the console - but you want to show that it is a well rounded community.
I got a broken PC dumped on me last night - and now I need to troubleshoot some of hardware - I will try to get to this as soon as I can.
Thanks everyone for the ideas - it will really help.
craigix
Jul 20 2006, 10:37 PM
I'm on the hunt for good screen shots, anyone fancy posting some?
Sparr
Jul 20 2006, 11:22 PM
QUOTE(Magnulus @ Jul 20 2006, 09:15 AM)

It has been said half a brajillion times that you just CAN'T use emulated games (ScummVM is sort of an emulator... in a way.) or games ported like Quake in an ad. The games in the ad will HAVE to be either homebrew games or one of the commercial GP2X releases.
You can tell your friends and people in general about the emulation, but you can't slap a picture of Sam&Max on an actual ad for the GP2X.
Why? Showing screenshots of games that the system actually runs is perfectly legal. You *BEGIN* to enter a slightly gray area with console emus where there is no common way for people to rip their own ROM files, but with ported games, disc-based emulators, and emulated engines there are millions of owners of legimitate copies of the data files (and theres always the demo files too!).
I would have no qualms about advertising Quake, Duke3D, PRBoom, ScummVM, OpenTTD.
I would be only very slightly worried about advertising console emulation features. Bleem won that court battle for us already. Sony tried to sue them for using game screenshots to compare low-res psx tv output to high-res bleem-on-pc output. details here:
http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/getcase/9th/cas...7v2&exact=1
Dzz
Jul 20 2006, 11:44 PM
QUOTE(craigix @ Jul 20 2006, 04:37 PM)

I'm on the hunt for good screen shots, anyone fancy posting some?
Take anything you want from
http://gp2xgamer.com/reviews/index.htmlor there are lots of shots of my games at
http://gp2xgamer.com/dzzgames/index.html
DaveN
Jul 21 2006, 12:22 AM
Some thigns that should get mentioned ( like a small list of games down there ) :
"Plays Nethack, SuperTux, SuperMethaneBrothers, Transport Tycoon, Ultima VII ( if that's legal ). " Just to get some linux guys to freak out.
And somehow you'll have to put emulation in. Like 'Emulates dozens (Edit: Thanks jmetal88. Still learning english ) of systems.'
Oh, and for the boys show a LadyKiller screenshot. That's how to get their attention.
jmetal88
Jul 21 2006, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(DaveN @ Jul 20 2006, 07:22 PM)

douzands ( spelling? )
dozens
JaqMs
Jul 21 2006, 12:43 AM
Oh, I forgot. You should definately add a picture of Beat2x or Step2x. That would appeal to the many many DDR fans.
Epicenter
Jul 21 2006, 12:44 AM
There is no reason you can't use a Quake, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Rise of the Triad or Duke Nukem 3D screenshot and they'd be quite beneficial, these games have tons of fans. They aren't illegal to run, and have shareware versions that are free to distribute.
Epicenter
Jul 21 2006, 01:14 AM
QUOTE(DaveN @ Jul 20 2006, 07:22 PM)

Oh, and for the boys show a LadyKiller screenshot. That's how to get their attention.
Doesn't that game use copyrighted art stolen from hentai games? ..
craigix
Jul 21 2006, 02:36 AM
How about i just take a photo of the gp2x between a giant set of tits?
...
Then surround that with the screen shots of games.
TelcoLou
Jul 21 2006, 02:48 AM
PSyMastR
Jul 21 2006, 02:50 AM
QUOTE(craigix @ Jul 20 2006, 10:36 PM)

How about i just take a photo of the gp2x between a giant set of tits?
...
Then surround that with the screen shots of games.
QUOTE(TelcoLou @ Jul 20 2006, 10:48 PM)

Is that a real white one!?!?!?!?!?!?
TelcoLou
Jul 21 2006, 02:51 AM
QUOTE

Is that a real white one!?!?!?!?!?!?
It must be, it's from GBAX.com
PSyMastR
Jul 21 2006, 02:52 AM
[quote name='TelcoLou' date='Jul 20 2006, 10:51 PM' post='426478']
[quote name='TelcoLou' post='426474' date='Jul 20 2006, 10:48 PM']

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Is that a real white one!?!?!?!?!?!?
[/quote]
It must be, it's from GBAX.com

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lol. It just looks much better then a render. How did you find that?
TelcoLou
Jul 21 2006, 02:53 AM
I was being an ass
I guess my super-sarcasm is again wasted on the intarweb
Epicenter
Jul 21 2006, 03:39 AM
tshroom
Jul 21 2006, 03:58 AM
QUOTE(craigix @ Jul 20 2006, 09:36 PM)

How about i just take a photo of the gp2x between a giant set of tits?
...
Then surround that with the screen shots of games.
I'm sold....
as long as one of the screen caps is a Dzz game. Dzz is the man!
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