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blakespot
Everyone who dugg the last article, please DIGG THIS ONE!

http://digg.com/hardware/Retro_in_your_poc...ld_game_machine

We got to 47 or so diggs on the last one - I think we can get close to 100 on this and likely see front page. Give it a shot if you would!

Thanks!





blakespot
atomicthumbs
QUOTE(blakespot @ Aug 1 2006, 05:46 AM) *

I put a plug for an article I wrote about the GP2X and my first week with it up on Digg Sunday afternoon. Sadly I didn't think to mention it HERE to get diggs until noon or so yesterday (Monday). The article was #1 on the "Upcoming Stories" page - so close to front, and then the 24hr clock rolled around and it dropped off the page utterly.

So I've written a 2nd plug about that same article. Smacks of sharp practice maybe, I guess. But I'd love to spread the word about the GP2X and get Digg front page coverage.

So - everyone who dugg the last article, please DIGG THIS ONE!

http://digg.com/hardware/Retro_in_your_poc...ld_game_machine

We got to 47 or so diggs on the last one - I think we can get close to 100 on this and likely see front page. Give it a shot if you would!

Thanks!





blakespot


Digg dugg!
Blah
Dug....again.
blakespot
16 diggs so far and it's only 7am. Can easily get 50+ by 2am or so (the 24 hr point).

Keep (re)-digg'ing!!!




blakespot
Paradox
post some links to gp2x advertisement / game videos on youtube in the comments
xnopasaranx
hehe also dugged!
michaeljustman
Digg-Dugged
blakespot
25 diggs - half way to 50. Not bad so far!



blakespot
dsd28
dugg!
murak
Dugg!

What a community this is.. Greate work everybody!
xnopasaranx
come on people! we have 29 diggs and there are still 21 left to go. I think there should be enough users on this forum to get this going... let's digg it!
Anonymous D
Dugg!?!
Peter R
Dugg!
Yono
re dugg
Griffer
Dugg
Goity
40 digs.
David Beoulve
dugg!
blakespot
We're at 40 now. Getting to the critical position at the top of 'Most Popular' under 'Upcoming Stories.'

See that page here:

http://www.digg.com/view/technology/upcoming/most

Four from the top right now!! So, by all means - keep digging!!



blakespot
blakespot
Looks like 3rd on most popular stories list - very close.

Sorry to annoyingly keep bumping / posting - it's almost over - almost front page.

Digg folks!



blakespot
blakespot
As of right now, it's next in line!


blakespot
Peter R
We need a few more!

Edit: Reset cache. No we dont!
TelcoLou
Dugg ... number 50 ... what do I win?
blakespot
50 diggs - it's seconds from front surely.

Can someone screenshot it for me when it's at top of front of digg? I like to see that and am going to be on a bus for the next hour. :-(

(Playing my GP2X!)

Thanks.



blakespot
greenmikey
Front page!
DaveN
http://digg.com/

Frontpage.
Now were all able to die in peace.
Magnulus
Since I didn't contribute with the Digging, here ya go:
http://www.magnulus.com/images/gp2x/digg-gp2x.png

TelcoLou
IPB Image
blakespot
Nice! I didn't screenshot it until it was 2nd.

GP2X MADE FRONT PAGE!



blakespot
icurafu
I think some of the comments at the bottom of this digg are very misleading. You guys should be ashamed, stooping to such levels to get people to buy a GP2X. full-speed GBA emulator in months? Decent 1&2 hopefully? Surfing the web wirelessly and writing emails? (I wouldn't call it surfing)

Many other such lame comments, just read...

There are a lot of great things about the GP2X, why sell it on the things it can't do well or now?
Goity
Bloody hell, that went up fast didn't it?
Nova
It says it has 151 diggs! Wow!
Goity
Quick, bury the linus story!
craigix
Awesome! It was worth signing up afterall.
DaveN
I KNEW this would happen:
QUOTE

if only it could play PSP games... If it could, or if someone wrote one for it, i would go right now and buy one... NOW I SAY!!! I hope that sombody writes one...


Get ready for the next wave of users asking for a xbox360 emulator.
PSyMastR
ROFL. Well, its front page, so DaveN, its not far off. Here comes the influx of morons.
FFNoir
Next thing you know, Attack of the Show (a show on G4, an American channel for all you non-U.S. people) will start reviewing this thing like they did when 1.5 cracks first hit the PSP.
DaveC
Then you have this moron bashing it because he had one of the first ones.

Then he lies worse than George Bush: wink.gif

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"As someone who owned one, I can say the GP2X is horrible.

The screen is crap, it flickers, has scanlines, all which hurt your eyes.
The joystick is fucking shit, it lacks any real control and it hurts your thumb.

The battery life is horrendous, especially when playing any kind of emulator.
The gp2x would drain 2 brand new batteries in half an hour of playing the MAME emulator!
It only supports the oldest versions of MAME games, also when playing anything more complex than lets say, PACMAN, the machine would struggle and lag.

The build quality on the unit itself is crap. It's made of cheap plastic and the TV-OUT cable was flimsy and wouldn't connect correctly (I HAD TO TAPE IT).

Development for the unit it slow, only a handful of people are actually doing any real work on it, and most of whats available is of low quality and hacky.

The music player and video player on the GP2X are absolute crap. Playing videos also drains the batteries very quickly, youd be lucky to make it through an hour and 20 minutes with fresh batteries.

Seriously, this thing only costs $180 for a reason, and some may even argue that $180 is too much for such a low quality piece of crap. Youll end up spending 15 dollars a week on batteries every week, or youll spend 4 hours a day recharging rechargeable batteries. "

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Drain batteries in 1/2 hour? Even MY batteries last longer than that wink.gif

Mame games newer than Pac-Man are slow? What? Liar.

Scan lines? Flicker? OLD!

Must be a PSP FANBOI.
FFNoir
Meh, even my 2500 nimhs only take half an hour to charge and give me 5-7 hours of playtime.

Edit: some of those people sound like their regurgitating facts from early review (early Lik-sang anyone?)...seriously, we haven't had screen flickers since the pre-1.4 days.
Magnulus
A pair of alkalines lasted me more than two hours... I smell a lying, filthy rat.
DaveC
Someone should go there that is registered and refute all of his bullshit. I would do it but I don't want to fuck around with registration.
daclassicgamingmaster
QUOTE(craigix @ Aug 1 2006, 06:06 PM) *

Awesome! It was worth signing up afterall.

lol craig im sure you're rubbing you hands together as this means only good for you laugh.gif rolleyes.gif
DaveC
QUOTE(daclassicgamingmaster @ Aug 1 2006, 11:58 PM) *

QUOTE(craigix @ Aug 1 2006, 06:06 PM) *

Awesome! It was worth signing up afterall.

lol craig im sure you're rubbing you hands together as this means only good for you laugh.gif rolleyes.gif



I don't know. Some of those guys really bash it with lies or out of date info.

What is it with people and goddamn wifi? It is like every device has to have fuckin' wifi or they freak out. It is not a PDA or laptop jesus christ get over it.
TelcoLou
QUOTE(DaveC @ Aug 1 2006, 07:53 PM) *

Someone should go there that is registered and refute all of his bullshit. I would do it but I don't want to fuck around with registration.


Refuted'd! tongue.gif
craigix
It is suprising how many people will bash the GP2X just based on what they read late last year and almost entirely based on liksang's shitty review.

What liksang posted has caused more rumours and bashing of the GP2X than anything else.

I've voted down the bad comments and told people to come here and judge for themselves from people who actually own a gp2x.

Still, this is good publicity for the GP2X indeed.
DaveC
How about this moron:


"mine is in a drawer. sounds great, until the battery dies in a few clicks and the thing reboots or freezes. There's promise of emus, but those aren't ready for primetime yet. haven't gotten it to play video well. If you want it you can have it. Also, the "screen protector" on mine was scratched up. I realize this after I glued it on. Did I mention the thing sucks battery like crazy?
Also, this "news" article is very old."


Mwwahahhaaaa TAKE THE FUCKING SHIPPING FILM OFF YOU IDIOT! rolleyes.gif

TelcoLou
QUOTE(TelcoLou @ Aug 1 2006, 08:21 PM) *

QUOTE(DaveC @ Aug 1 2006, 07:53 PM) *

Someone should go there that is registered and refute all of his bullshit. I would do it but I don't want to fuck around with registration.


Refuted'd! tongue.gif


@DaveC: Refute it yourself as I did, don't just complain about it here (as much as we all love your diatribes on morons tongue.gif )
Epicenter
I wrote a beefy, objective reply on my experiences with the GP2X; its strengths and weaknesses and how they've influenced my time spent with the '2x. I think it sums things up pretty well. Here's a copy of it ... sorry if it's a bit of an earful. smile.gif

QUOTE

As a GP2X owner, but far from a fanboy (I'm looking forward to the XGP, and if the hardware in the PSP appealed to me more, I might want to buy one as well) .. I feel I should post my experiences with the machine and help set the record straight between the 'extremists' on both sides. wink.gif

Raw Performance: The most important bit to me. The machine has a MagicEyes SoC (System on a Chip) containing 2 ARM9 cores- an ARM920T and an ARM940T, both rated for 200 MHz. I am able to run my ARM920T core, the one that runs the vast majority of software, at up to 312 MHz. At this speed, the performance is astouding-- and it's amazing at 200 MHz as well. Nearly all emulators run at or near full speed-- only the most extreme platforms to emulate usually experience any serious slowdown at all. I'm developing for the machine, and I'm blown away by what it can handle. It also bears mentioning the ARM9 is one of my absolute favorite processor architectures, and this was the ideal choice for the machine as far as I am concerned as far as balance betweeen performance and battery life is concerned.

The second CPU, the ARM940T, has no MMU and less cache so it's fairly specialized in what it can do- it takes a lot of programming finesse but it has some great uses, like assisting video encoding or some emulation assistance. Developers are figuring out how to use it, and I am extremely confident libraries will soon exist to run common tasks on the 940T like audio/image decoding/handling to lift some burden off the main ARM920T. Overclocking the 920T is simple and painless and can be done in software at any time. You can also underclock for better battery life.

Memory: One of the biggest advantages the GP2X has-- it has an enormous amount of RAM available. There is 64MB total, and only about 8MB is used by the OS. So you have about 56MB of RAM to play with as a developer-- that's incredible, and a big part of why NeoGeo Arcade emulation is possible on the GP2X despite how huge such games are. This is a godsend for me, as a developer using a LOT of memory-intensive graphics AND music! When your handheld has as much memory as an XBox, you've got something impressive.

Storage: The onboard NAND memory is 64 MB, 32 MB of which can be used for storage and 32 MB is reserved for the basic kernel and programs. The fact that it uses such a cheap and readily available format, for which I have a reader on every one of my machines (and my camera uses SD!) this is really ideal. My 1GB SD card cost me very little ($50.) This is nice compared to Memory Stick especially.


Graphics/GFX Performance: The '2x contains a 2D blitter which speeds up 2D graphics operations (Drawing, filling, etc.) dramatically. It also contains 2 scaling units that can resize/zoom and flip the display so applications that are not the native resolution of the display (320x240) can run just fine. There is no hardware 3D support, but given the lack of good, gameplay-rich 2D games as of late compared to the industrywide influx of less creative, less inspired 3D titles, I can do without the pretty realistic visuals for impressive and immersive gameplay. Like the good old days. Lack of a 3D GPU also aids battery life.

Speaking of graphics-- the LCD. Only the earliest MK1 units had the 'flickering' issue, it was rapidly fixed and resellers offered to replace units with the issue. Later MK1 units like mine have it fixed and come from a much better factory, with higher quality fabrication. MK2 units have a whole new LCD with a crisper appearance. There is a 'scanline' effect on MK1 displays (not present on MK2s) but it can be eliminated with a quick 10-second adjustment in the settings menu, which never needs to be done again. The display is bright, crisp and not blurry at all. Much better than I expected for the price.

Audio: Fantastic audio quality; even the 2 onboard speakers sound good. You can of course attach your own headphones or speakers easily and they sound superb; as good as my PC does easily. The built-in audio player is simple and to-the-point and plays all my Mp3 and OGG files without a hitch. It's not very fancy but it does offer some seeking and equalizer functionality; and apparently the new version coming out with the next firmware update adds such things as playlist support (excellent.)

Video: The machine has built-in MPEG4 decoder hardware that supplements the ARM920T, and works with the ARM940T. Even high-definition resolution video (e.g. 1080, 720 lines tall video) plays at a smooth framerate, usually 30 FPS. The machine can play MPEG4 video or DivX and XViD, which is about all I encode to anyway. You can play AVI containers or OGM ones (renamed to AVI). The player is open source so new formats and codecs are being added by community members at the moment. Battery life is much decreased when using the video player due to the extra hardware that's engaged, but you can put a big dent in that by just using videos encoded to 320x240 so the battery-hungry scaler doesn't need to do anything- you can comfortably view videos for quite a few hours on 2 rechargable NiMH AAs.

Photos: The built-in photo viewer is nice and has an integrated explorer, can flip images to view them at different angles, zoom in or out. This is especially nice for me since my camera stores JPEG photos on SD cards, so I can see a big, high-quality copy of my photos the moment I take them! (My laptop has an integrated SD card reader too, so this is extra-convenient.) There are some bugs where the player crashes reading some files, but the majority work fine. It even supports very large images (I think it tops out around 3000px across. But that's pretty reasonable.)

Controls: As has been said the control stick is on the sketchy side and isn't as precise as I'd like, but is much improved with the custom cap that I ordered and with the new one that is provided with all new units (you can also order one separately.) I'm replacing my stick with a D-Pad shortly with a kit provided by a community member, and other replacement kits are in the works. For most games though, the stick is really just fine, and you get used to it amazingly fast. I'm just a picky bastard. The rest of the buttons are great; very comfortable with good response-- the shoulder buttons could use to 'click' more but this is fine; it doesn't hinder me in any way.

Battery Life: I get about 5-6 hours of life playing very stressful emulators like NeoGeo or SNES, and can cram in some audio and photo viewing in there too-- this is on some cheap $15-for-a-pack-of-4 2800MAh Duracell NiMHs or 2500 MAh Energizer NiMHs. On a pair of Lithium AAs it lasts at least 9 hours on average, I stock up on those when I can't recharge. Where there's a wall outlet, I use my tiny compact AC adapter, works perfectly. The cord plugs into the side where it's a bit odd, but it acts like a bit of a 'grip' for me so I don't mind it. As long as I have 4 AAs with me I never have any sort of power issue.

Software: The emulators and default apps for media playback are great, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. There are lots of great ports like classic FPS'es-- Quake, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Rise of the Triad, Duke Nukem 3D and Marathon for example. There are ports of great 2D PC games like Noiz2sa and the "ScummVM"-supported Lucasarts adventure titles. There are LOTS of homebrew games in development and released, like the fantastic arcade-style Vektar or a nice selection of others. The best stuff is in development and shaping up nicely.

Homebrew: Developing for the machine is a breeze; I had never used SDL or coded for a handheld Linux machine prior to my existing projects, but it was a piece of cake to get used to it. You just compile your applications on your PC with easy-to-use SDK tools (or an IDE) and copy your executable to your SD card, or run it over the USB cable via Telnet, copy it over via Samba (yes, it CAN share files with Windows.. or act as an FTP or HTTP server) and run it. Very, very easy.

At the moment I'm the programmer for a team developing a very intense 'danmaku-style' top-scrolling shooter called Stargazer (a.k.a. Project Luminance), and an FPS, Armor of Acheron G, as well as an air combat sim (based on Quake), both with single-player and multi-player support; Stargazer to support multiple players via USB controller connectivity, especially useful with the GP2X's TV output!

I really couldn't be much happier with the machine; it's few quirks are mostly minor issues. I can see the negativity from some people who weren't ready for the risks inherent to being an early adopter and got one of the crummier models from the first production run which didn't last very long, but that really comes with the territory. Nowadays, things are pretty peachy in GP2X-land. If you are considering getting a GP2X, you'd be doing yourself a favor to do so.
iignotus
QUOTE(Epicenter @ Aug 2 2006, 12:07 AM) *

I wrote a beefy, objective reply on my experiences with the GP2X; its strengths and weaknesses and how they've influenced my time spent with the '2x. I think it sums things up pretty well. Here's a copy of it ... sorry if it's a bit of an earful. smile.gif

QUOTE

GOOD GOD THIS IS A LOT OF TL;DR


Oh wow, please try to keep the length down a little bit. Spread out your point among a bunch of comments smile.gif Most of the little trolls (basically anyone "reporting" this topic to the digg police) don't have much of an attention span, so they won't be able to latch on to your excellent points.

I've been trying to spread the gospel, digg me up if you agree smile.gif
Epicenter
If they can't even skim it, they probably shouldn't be trying to read it as they'd be unable/unwilling to grasp it .. e.g. it might differ from their preconcieved notions. tongue.gif Easier to type that up than to go through putting a bickering argument on each false statement, which makes me look like a blind fanboy. Sure, the '2x has faults, I've been vocal about them. But most of the negativity so far in this discussion was outdated and fixed issues or just outright bullshit.
oneandoneis2
QUOTE
The joystick is fucking shit, it lacks any real control and it hurts your thumb.


Actually, I agree with that - I really must look into getting a replacement, because it's starting to affect my typing wink.gif

And I'd also have to say that no amount of fiddling has made the GP2X's screen quite as sharp & clear as my GP32's. .
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