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[1Emulation] very thoroughly reviews the GP2x (MKII) handheld from Gamepark Holdings. It covers all aspects from the device's aesthetics to its ability to play music, videos, games, and, most importantly, emulators. Included are many videos and pictures to fully illustrate the GP2x and its capabilities. You will not find a review this detailed anywhere else!

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ste_167
..written in the style of DaveC tongue.gif

SquidgeSnes0.37 -- >"In our main test, we used Super Street Fighter II, and it was completely unplayable. Not only was it extremely slow, but it could not even surpass 15-25 frames per second, even with overclocking to 250mhz"

I'm giving this a go when I get home tonight. No way can that be true.
Alex.
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DrMDv5b7 (Sega Megadrive-Genesis / Gamegear / Master System / 32x)

Read the bloody readme, DrMD doesn't emulate the 32x. Yet another sprout of confusion.

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The only problems we found with this emulator is that quite a few games don't take up the entire screen and there is no current option to zoom or resize it

That's because not all Genesis games were made at/for the same resolution. Either way the borders are minimal, and stretching the image would look horrible. Enjoy the beautiful imagery the Sega Genesis has to offer at 1:1.

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As a MAME fanatic, I was very disappointed with all the games we tried.

Big surprise, goody for you. Get a Japanese to do it!

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Again, we found the Neogeo emulator just not up to par

Man...

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SquidgeSNES 0.37 (Super Nintendo)

This was by far the biggest disappointment for all of us during this review.
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In our main test, we used Super Street Fighter II, and it was completely unplayable.
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This was a major let down and hopefully the author of the emulator will be able to better utilize the GP2x for emulation of the Super Nintendo.

That's what you get when you throw the most graphics-heavy games at WIP emulators. Way to cheer Squidge and Reesy up.

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This system should only be advertised for Linux gurus and developers, no one else. If you want to emulate better, purchase a Sony PSP or Nintendo DS.

Why the fuck did you post this on the front page of a GP2X fan site? Developers work hard on their software, which by the way is free of charge for us to enjoy. Emulators are constantly improving and many of the ones you slurred are more than playable. Better and better homebrew games and ports are landing the front page every week. Give them a try sometime.

- Alex
ste_167
Alex - he spent 3 hours trying to get a USB cable working, he couldn't read the letters on the buttons, and to cap it all he's put this in the GP32 NewsZone.. I don't really think the GP2X is for him..
peetabix
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Is that a real GP2X TV-OUt cable?

Seems to me like it needs something else, i wouldnt be able to connect that to my TV without buying an extra male to male cable.


Alex, i totally agree with your post.
ste_167
QUOTE(peetabix @ Aug 30 2006, 04:25 PM) *

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Is that a real GP2X TV-OUt cable?

Seems to me like it needs something else, i wouldnt be able to connect that to my TV without buying an extra male to male cable.


Yes, that's how it currently comes, and it's a pain. I'm sure craigix mentioned something about plans to package out-the-box 'workable' cables in the future.
peetabix
QUOTE(ste_167 @ Aug 30 2006, 05:29 PM) *

QUOTE(peetabix @ Aug 30 2006, 04:25 PM) *

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Is that a real GP2X TV-OUt cable?

Seems to me like it needs something else, i wouldnt be able to connect that to my TV without buying an extra male to male cable.


Yes, that's how it currently comes, and it's a pain. I'm sure craigix mentioned something about plans to package out-the-box 'workable' cables in the future.


Ok, thanks for the info. Any idea on when this will happen?
ste_167
No, I'm afraid not. I guess the principle is that it's a base adapter that you can connect the required length cables to. Very un-Playstationy!
aapje89
QUOTE(Alex. @ Aug 30 2006, 05:01 PM) *

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Again, we found the Neogeo emulator just not up to par

Man...

omg

lame review.
TomVS
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If you want to emulate better, purchase a Sony PSP or Nintendo DS



This is very subjective. Emulation is what makes the gp2x stand out of the crowd !


garengarch
Seems a pretty harsh review to me.
Half of the fun I get from my GP2X is following the development of emulators/homebrew, and trying to get it running.
Guess I just like tinkering <shrugs>

Shouldn't be too hard on the reviewer I suppose, from what I remember, puberty was a bastard.
geise69
You know it was going to be a bad review to begin with when in the first paragragh he already mentioned having a psp. Almost everyone that has a psp and does a review of the GP2X expects it to be like a psp. I also love the green glove in the one picture. I guess he forgot and thought he was holding a psp for a second. I don't ever remember my gp2x getting smudged with finger prints like my psp. Also I like how he said "It became very disappointing as we were really hoping for some classic MAME games to play." I wouldn't necessarily call SFII one of the classics. MAME classics are more along the lines of Galaga, Pac Man, Lunar Lander and other late 70's early 80's games. His idea of classics seems to be early 90's capcom stuff probably which is a tad unfair to the author to judge mame on those games and not let other people know how "other" classic games run. Not all of the review was bad. I agree'd on a couple things, but he should've done a bit more research before really doing a review. One good thing about this review is it will keep all of the people complaining about snes, mame, and others not being fullspeed out of our forum. Guess I'm done ranting. I think I'll go play my gp2x now...Shit!...how do I turn this on? Where is the X and Y buttons...I cant find them. I wish the gp2x had a button setup like a snes. Then I might be able to play better. rolleyes.gif
mfk
Ultimate review?!?!? This one?... Sorry guys but this is a very crap and lame article... I won't post it to my page. dry.gif
ste_167
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Guess I'm done ranting. I think I'll go play my gp2x now


Just be careful that the cheap screen doesn't fall out and break, and make sure your gloves are lint-free
geise69
QUOTE(ste_167 @ Aug 30 2006, 12:25 PM) *

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Guess I'm done ranting. I think I'll go play my gp2x now


Just be careful that the screen doesn't fall out and break, and make sure your gloves are lint-free



Too late! Guess I should've bought some of those green gloves.
craigix
Neogeo is not good enough? WTF? I'll say that again, WHAT THE FUCK? How could the neogeo emu be any better?

Why is this review even linked on the main page with large text?
geise69
QUOTE(craigix @ Aug 30 2006, 12:29 PM) *

Neogeo is not good enough? WTF? I'll say that again, WHAT THE FUCK? How could the neogeo emu be any better?

Why is this review even linked on the main page with large text?


I was just as amazed as you. Also especially with the new one that came out today. It's even better. I didn't even think it could get any better than it previously was, but damn pepone outdid himself yet again.
ste_167
Craigix - here's an outline of his NeoGeo woes:

* You need to overclock to get full-speed with 22050Hz sound.. MetalSlug needed to be all of 250Mhz..! hmm.

* Playing with the default sound option works well.. but errr he like to be able to change the sound and clockspeed manually

* Rage2X does just that, but (!) he finds it confusing...

* Oh, and it froze a couple of times.

kevcal
He wasn't impressed by mame or neogeo... oh well some people are never satisfied wink.gif
ste_167
Yeah, but the pedantic depth that he's gone to may give this review credibility in some people's eyes, and his overuse of 'We' is what's known as Weasel wording on wiki
Alex.
A mod should move this to GP2X General Discussion.

- Alex
krosfyah
For someone that claims to have been into this stuff for 5 to7 years he sure does sound like a complete and utter n00b.

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Another thing to know is much like the PSP, the GP2x is a brick without a memory card.

Erm, no.

EDIT: I agree with the others, this review should not be on the front page. It's spreading masses of false information from what may, to the passing consumer, look to be a credible source.
IntenseWage
I don't know. Besides some really stupid inconsistencies like the Neo Geo emulator not being up to par and the MAME emulator being disappointing because (I'm assuming) he tried nothing but newer, more intensive games, I think this review's alright. He pointed out his disappointments and what impressed him. In the end, it did get a 7.6, which is definitely respectable. It's not a perfect machine.
epitaph
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If you want to emulate better, purchase a Sony PSP or Nintendo DS.


Not to seem like a fanboy, but the DS is nowhere near the GP2X in terms of emulation and the PSP's Neo Geo emulators don't even compare to GnGeo. Sure, it emulates the Neo Geo CD pretty well, but the AES/MVS-emulator available is shit and hardly has any compatibility whatsoever.
Racemaniac
once again i read the term dual core cpu. afaik the gp2x has 2 seperate cpu's...
jbrodack
when i saw this on the front page i thought this would be a really good review like the one from trusted reviews.
when i saw it would have a focus on emulation i thought it would be really positive.

damn was i wrong. didn't even try many of the emulators for the system. used fishynes which isn't the best nes emu available. neo geo is amazing on the gp2x i dont know how he could say its bad. mame works great for all the old classics. yeah a lot of newer games don't run great but games like street fighter work well on the console emulators.

that was a comprehensively horrible review. it went into a lot of detail on mundane stupid stuff but made it look credible then came out with a bunch of crap about how it runs.
krosfyah
Maybe it was written by a disgruntled "I need help" poster..
trooper
MOVED, To its rightful place.

Trooper
geise69
At least the one good thing about this review is it's keeping people like these http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php...mp;#entry204484 out of the gp32x forums. The sad thing is that if someone is really interested in the gp2x and has half a brain, this really bad article might turn them away from getting a gp2x.
gnyffel
Omflog he SUCKS at Duke3d blink.gif

I cannot trust this man. He is untrustworthy for this purpose.
krosfyah
QUOTE(geise69 @ Aug 30 2006, 08:08 PM) *

At least the one good thing about this review is it's keeping people like these http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php...mp;#entry204484 out of the gp32x forums. The sad thing is that if someone is really interested in the gp2x and has half a brain, this really bad article might turn them away from getting a gp2x.

Nice typo (I assume) right at the beginning..
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This would not have been possible with the help of Play-Asia.

lol
Fat Agnus
QUOTE(craigix @ Aug 30 2006, 11:29 AM) *

Neogeo is not good enough? WTF? I'll say that again, WHAT THE FUCK? How could the neogeo emu be any better?


I don't know what this guy was talking about... He links to the neogeo using v0.6.12 and even though it doesn't have the optimizations of v0.7, it ran Metal Slug 2, King of Fighters '96, and several other games at full frame rate. I would have to say my favorite emulators are GnGeo, mamegp2x, drmd (of course!), and frodo2x.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzu5UeSldqw

If he's going to slam an emulator on the gp2x, at least post WIP videos like

GBA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eM41ln5X4Y

or the PSX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITaknk35wg

rmatheso
It kills me that he is dissing the Neo Geo emulation on the GP2X when the PSP can't even play all the games.

Kripes. I can play Samurai Showdown 5 Special darn near perfect on the GP2X! NO OTHER HANDHELD CAN DO THIS!

This is typical though, the GP2X takes about a week of tweaking and learning all about the emulators and their options to get the full performance out of the system. When i first got mine, I loaded up Gngeo 0.6 with SNK Vs Capcom at 200mhz and was like WTF? it is soo slow and choppy.

Now it's freaking perfect at 266mhz running 0.7 with the frontend.

Even today, a co-worker comes up to me as I'm playing Metal Slug 5 and goes "That's awesome man.. WTF? That's not a PSP!!!!" He then sat down and played 1942 and Altered Beast. He was totally blown away.

Humph.
darkman
I think this was a very bad article. Very poorly put together by someone who has not done very much playing with emulators. It seems from reading the whole thing that it makes me wonder if this guy has had any experience loading up home brew or emulators on any hand held device. I wonder if the guy was purposely bias. He certainly hasn't tried out the same emulators that I have running on my GP2X. I think he really needed to ask someone who owns the GP2X to hold his hand through the whole process of setting one up and using it. dry.gif

I almost want to sign up to their site to make a comment, but it would almost be like running in front of a moving truck. The people on their forum actually believe him and take him seriously.
geise69
Man my first impressions of the GP2X were awesome! I saw the GP2X and was very interested in it. I knew about the GP32 when it was first released, but I was finishing college at the time and didn't have the money. I waited a little while to see what the reactions were on the GP2X. I saw really good reviews and heard of things that were a little messed up, but fixable. In February I bought mine. I was so amazed to finally be playing TMNT and the arcade version of Strider and Galaga in the palm of my hand. What made the "first" time experience such a blast whas doing "research" before I messed with my GP2X. It made the experience that much more enjoyable knowing what to expect. Then GnGeo got released and even those early versions amazed me. I never expect emulation to be perfect like it seems this reviewer did. To me only having 5 years of emulation "play time" means jack. Emulators on pc's were pretty much fullspeed for most of the stuff in mame, neogeo and snes. Maybe if he messed with emulators and homebrew in the mid to late 90's or earlier he'd be more understanding. Oh well it's still a shitty review. Also I noticed DCEmu put this article in their news section for the gp2x. I also read it's straying away a couple people. One guy doesn't want to buy it now cause he read the buttons were cheap in the review.
Dzz
Different people like different things, so every product gets a bad review sometimes. We know from what some people post here that others do have similar issues to those that the reviewer had. It could be because he's a clueless idiot, but then the clueless idiots that read his site might not like the gp2x either. I wish the gp2x was a machine more suited to clueless idiots, but it isn't.

krosfyah
I dunno, even my little sister managed to accomplish more with it than the reviewer did, and she doesn't have '5 years of experience'.

I'm all for showing both sides of the coin when it comes to subjective issues, but some of the things he said were just blatantly false.
Winterkid
QUOTE(trooper @ Aug 30 2006, 12:02 PM) *

MOVED, To its rightful place.

Trooper


But Trooper, this isn't the Trash can..... or the recycle bin.... or the LOL files. (mostly cause it's too stupid to be funny)

Personally I wanna know if anyone's mailed this jarhead and told him he doesn't know his elbows from that other place.

If he'd done ANY searching through this forum for ANY of the issues he was looking for answers for, he'd have read that most of the stuff he'd HAD problems with have not only been answered, but either worked around or improved. I'd also like to know which versions of all the emulators he's been using and which versions of the ROMs. I'd also like to check his blood alcohol content for the day he wrote the review.
trooper
QUOTE(Winterkid @ Sep 1 2006, 07:04 AM) *

QUOTE(trooper @ Aug 30 2006, 12:02 PM) *

MOVED, To its rightful place.

Trooper


But Trooper, this isn't the Trash can..... or the recycle bin.... or the LOL files. (mostly cause it's too stupid to be funny)

Personally I wanna know if anyone's mailed this jarhead and told him he doesn't know his elbows from that other place.

If he'd done ANY searching through this forum for ANY of the issues he was looking for answers for, he'd have read that most of the stuff he'd HAD problems with have not only been answered, but either worked around or improved. I'd also like to know which versions of all the emulators he's been using and which versions of the ROMs. I'd also like to check his blood alcohol content for the day he wrote the review.


I totally agree with you points regarding the review author, But by rightful place, I meant moving it anywhere to get it out of the news forum and thus off of the front page, But leaving it where people can still find it, So they can still express their views on what a knob this guy really is.

Next stop Lol files.

Trooper
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