The GP2X+ Has:

Same CPU as the good old GP2X, same screen;

A REAL 8-microswitch or carbon pad D-PAD.
and/or a extra 'center' button to make up for the lack of one
(can't have a center-pivot D-pad without a center pivot, which means NO 'push-center hub down'.

Moved Power plug (on top near SD card, not on the side)

Tweaked power supply,
Can now accept a Rechargeable "RCR-V3" type battery.
(3.7 Volts or 4.2 Volts nominal. Also MUCH higher energy drains than NiMH for Extreme overclocks)

CPU heatsink, Copper or Aluminium to dissipate heat better, basically a large flat sheet of al/cu thermal bonded to the cpu. RAM heatsink as well.

Tweaked RAM and CPU electronics for greater and more reliable overclocks.

The GP3X:

MMSP2+ CPU which supports:

3D acceleration,
H264 video decoding in HARDWARE
Video ENCODING. (which means a Video In/Out adapter plug)
Integrated High capacity Li-ION Polymer battery (3500mAh or higher)
CPU's similar enough to the GP2X for potential to run SAME software with minor changes.
Faster, at 360Mhz default clock.
128 MB of DDR RAM (way better than the SD currently used...goodbye 1998, hello 2002!)
Upgraded SD port (?) support for large density cards.
Onboard USB Host connector. Onboard USB MiniType-B Connector for GP2X-to-PC, and recharging battery.
Multi-purpose connector (Audio/Video in/out, USB connectors, Serial and JTAG).
Larger onboard NAND Flash (say 512 MB)
Similar formfactor as before, more 'standard' ports.
Higher contrast screen.

Damn, dude. Another one of these?

Something looks wrong on the poll, I know _I_ only voted once...

your hardware concepts are really ok and makes sense

ugh, i hate these topics. It's all just just the gimme kids that aren't happy with the classics.

If you want 3d, the GP2x isn't your handheld. Buh Bye.

Gah!! I agree! These are the beasties that jacked my other poll about either GPH got greedy or GP, and turned into an argument about a Gp2x+ or Gp3x+ or something stupid...

Ugh, ANOTHER "I am bored with my GP2X and want a new system, post dream specs here" thread

It is bad enough that other threads seem to end up this way but another?

Really if you want a new handheld with 3D and a stupid expensive non-replaceable battery etc just buy one other the others that are out.

Why do you suggest a heat sink, does the gp2x have heat problems?

No. I'm betting he thinks it will make it overclock more, but really, overheating isn't the problem there.

i dont understand these topics, dont you guys want software to mature over time ???

to be a part of these communities is half of the gp2x experience. and how long has the product been out 2years or something one thing that make me mad is companies who just spits out hardware and don,t support them properly.

in this case it,s almost no support from the company the community is where thing,s happen

if the gp3x would this year i will not buy anything more from gph because the life for the hardware is too short for my liking.

i ditched windows 7 years ago of the same reasons "hardware upgrade mayhem" i ditched my Xbox of the same reasons, in this generation of consoles the companies seem to speed up the lifespan of hardware. and i don,t like it,

im not made out of money you know and would like to atleast
figure out my hardware before it gets replaced

aww heck feel free to ignore me i just gets so fired up when i have to
0. buy new exiting hardware
1. pay my games for my system
2. pay for a new system to finish trilogy of game
3. pay again for the same games on new hardware
4. pay for "extra" content on my games who i already bought
goto 0.

*sigh*

Can we get all these combined and pinned into one? That way we can just point people like this guy in the direction of the sticky to blabber on

^^

How about a "release the commercial bob already dude post"

Those post are getting old too.

There is no real justification for any of the heat dissipation ideas. ARM CPU's and Ram in this sort of architecture generate no heat. Only the batteries may generate heat.

I'm sick of all the whining!
if the gp2x isnt good enough for you why did you buy it?

There is such a thing as having a wish for a better console in the next version you know.

Exactly. Thanks for your insight there, I get sick and tired of kids whining about no psx/n64/dc/ps2/GC/xbox/360 emulation on the GP2X, for 2D it's great, for 8-bit it's better. It's all about the retro, not 3D.

but they way people whine its sounds like they want a psp!!

Interesting, the GP2X+ is just a GP2X with some mods, get yours modded.

The GP3X is a dream right now, PS Samsung just released 16GB NAND. DDR seems a little out there, do we need GB's of bandwidth for a handheld?

what did you take? Can I get some?


This is right, we don't need anything to cool the processor.

If you want the GP3X: MAKE YOUR OWN. Get the circuit board made and populated and have at it, not really worth though is it?

The GP2X+ would be lovely, unfortunately you hold it in your hand already, just get a D-pad put on, USB on the top and move the power to the top to. It is only a simple mod.

Use the CPU Right?

http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products...duct_mmsp2p.asp

Gah, forget all that I want the GPX 5000!

It has 1Tb (Terabyte aka 1024Gb) NAND, 256Gb Ram, a 7D graphics processor (Bullet time never had it sooo good!) and is so small and portable I have to use tweasers to pick it up (gotta love the ingenuity of the Koreans).

/sarcasm

But seriously, I'm also sick of seeing about the next gen GP2X, until they [GPH] mention it don't bang on about it. If you want one so badly sell your 2X's and wait for the XGP (or PSP etc).

We have been getting some awesome SOFTWARE releases recently. Picodrive, PocketSNES, CPS2, etc, etc. The GP2X gets better and better everyone day because its being supported. Chill out and enjoy whats available.

As far as I'm concerned, if there's a GP3X, it had better have a minimum 500MHz CPU, a FPU, and a decent GPU, and it needs to cost about the same as my GP2X + inflation and get decent battery life. Until that can happen, I say we support the hardware we have so that the software available has time to mature.

This was more of a gauge on the communities response.

Indeed a CPU disapating about 1W-2W's (not including ram, perhaps about another 0.5W) of heat may not need much of a heatsink under normal conditions. However radical voltage mods and RAM timing tweaks could make it generate more heat than normal, thus some very basic heat removal capacity.

D-pad mods are generally not simple unless:

You own your own plastic molding machine, have professional parts and experience.

99% of the people here LACK that. Thus a 'Pre-Modded' GP2X+ would be popular, also your warranty would not be voided. (Although the days of bricking on a bad firmware are long past... LCD dead pixels could strike anytime)
A Nice D-Pad is HARD to come by. (heck several popular consoles have had terrible stock D-Pads)

A predictable overclock on the system would be nice.
(Not everyone gets like 266Mhz. and mods are VERY tricky with SMD components)

As well as a 'common' high-power Li-ION rechargeable battery in something like a common format.
See:
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?Page...&ProdID=910
Thee Power supply would not have to boost the 2.4 Volt supply to the 3.3~ the electronics and whatever for the LCD/backlight quite as much. (Longer runtime, with less heat-waste)

WOW, the GP2X community is so AWESOME. If you mention anything like a future product, or speculate over it, everyone gets pissed.

Well it is because there have already been *alot* of "wish" threads like this before. After awhile we get pissed because it is like the 7th thread like this in 6 months. Been here, done this.

I am more than happy with the gp2x 2d support but opengl es would be really sweet. think of all the ports. but, whatever. i dont even care. i own a gp2x not some imaginary handheld that may not even be manufactured in the future.

iv come into this a bit late but anyway...

*breathes deep*

AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! i hate these threads and shouldnt they really be in the other consoles section as its about niether the 2x or the 32 really i say move them all (or just delete them)

another thing i really hate is all the wining about the 2x not having a "decent" psx emu these people should be struck round the head with a large llama GRRR!!!! at them

*breathes again*

i feel much calmer now

You just bumped a topic that's 2+ months old ... to tell us how much you hate these types of topics.




... and everyone wonders why I'm such an asshole?

Yeah wtf man. WTF? You just brought this back from the dead so it can piss me off.

is ashamed of self

i dont even no how i ended up on here it just appeared

I have been reading the forums for some time now and I have seen alot of people who seem to be generally unhappy with the gp2x... I know noone really cares but here's my 2 cents:

the gp2x is by far an imperfect console system. when I purchased it and opened the box and looked over what I had gotten, my first impression was this: definitely NOT worth the $200 I forked out for it.

some of you know or have read the post about this but I plan to rectify the shortcomeings of the gp2x by repalceing the digital stick with a proper d-pad, install a USB host mod complete with an internal HDD (1.8" HDD from toshiba similar to those used in ipods and creative zens) install a wireless FM transmitter (not WiFi kiddies, but just a stereo sound broadcaster like an iTrip) remove the existing batery cradle and install a 3400~3800mAH NiMH recharga ble battery complete with an internal charger, at first I expect this thing to look like podzilla... probably half held together with duct tape and bailing twine eventually I will take the plastics off and loveingly replace them with something that A> housed everything comfortably. B> looks good.

What I am saying is this: if you dont like your gp2x, then dive in, open it up, learn what it would take to make the system do what you want it to. if you cant or wont do that, then go buy a PSP or a Nintendo DS, _I AM NOT DISSING YOU_! these consoles are prefabbed and tend to be more "up to date" but likewise, their life expectancies tend to be short.

the choice is yours, but forum posts requesting changes with no offer of assistance/villification are not helpful and tend to attract flameing.

I'm happy with my GP2X

Definitely more happy than I would be with a DS or a PSP.

Huh?

Are you referring to this thread only? because there are a plethora of threads detailing how you can make your 2x a better unit.

I haven't touched my PSP in weeks.

have you played around with auto popstation 4 yet?

... no, should I? It reminds me of that awful Chinese PSP knock-off

I hope you keep some kind of photo journal of your work, would be interesting to see it all come together with guides so people can mix and match the mods they want.

Wow - old thread - some threads are worth resurrecting... this one isn't