Hello!

Long time ago i did a topic pretty much like this one.
But now i want to know what is good an what is not good with the gp2x.
If it are easy to put in movies, mp3 music, pictures, and if it's easy to play emulators on it?

I don´t now if i going to buy a

NDS
GP2X
PSP

This is the good and bad things i noticed.

Nintedo DS

Good:
Funny games
Internet Browser
Can show 3D graphic

Bad:
To Little display
you have to buy a specially expenive memory card
I think it´s hard to play emlulator on it can be broken and so on.

PSP

Good:
Can play 3D graphic
Big nice screen

Bad:
Expensive sony memory stick
I think it´s hard to play emlulator on it can be broken and so on.
GP2X

Good:
Can play many games emulator, and things like that.
It's compitable with usally sd cards that is cheap.

Bad:
Cant show 3D graphic

Mainly i will have this to

1. Play emulators
2. Movies
3. Read Manga
4. Listen to Music

But please help tell me wich you think i will have.

Thank you//Halullu

The GP2X can show 3d graphics quite well, there is just no dedicated 3D hardware build in.

But seriously what do you expect as an answer on a gp2x board?

I don't know much about the rest, but GP2X emulate many, many systems up to GBA (and perhaps PSX soon? )
and it CAN do 3D... but it will never have same graphics as the PSP.
At the moment, the best 'tech demos' we have are Payback, Egoboo or Quake But it have enough raw power to do 3D stuff. Using it is another problem

The Sega MegaDrive/Genesis and Sega/Mega CD emulation and the GBA emulation are getting quite good.

The GP2X is good for emulators, movies and fine reasonable music. Reading Manga is probably ok, depends on the format.

Well for emus you can rule out the DS right away. Too little RAM, slow CPU, and the screen is too low res to run emulators without chopping off alot of the screen.

It should be down to PSP or GP2X. The GP2X screen aspect/resolution matches better for emulators, the PSP aspect for movies. Music? I dunno the same?

i asked this same question before i bought a gp2x
see the thread here: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=35686

i bought my unit the week after that, and it has exceeded all my expectations

there is an excellent honest comparison of PSP and GP2x here as well:
http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=35932

i think i am going to make a wiki page "Should I Buy a GP2x?" with info like this, as it's quite hard to find and is often asked by early adopters

I'm not sure if the screen size is good for music on the GP2X.



Sorry couldn't resist.

You also mentioned internet browsing on the NDS - Opera for the NDS is excellent!
It's the best internet browser on any handheld device. I would be confident enough to use instead of a PC based browser.

But you've stated that emulators is your number one area so the choice should probably be narrowed down to a PSP or GP2X. It really depends on which systems you're interested in.

Out of the box, the built in video player on the GP2X is better as it supports DivX. Our of the box the PSP supports H.264 and is somewhat less common. You generally need to re-encode video for the PSP which can be painful. But it doesn have a higher res widescreen screen more suitable for video content. Worth considering.

I was in the same situation and I ended up going with the GP2X at first. When I first got my GP2x I didn't like it that much at first but then it grew on me. Then later the urge to play a fullspeed Playstation and GBA emulator got the best of me and I bought a PSP. However, now it looks like the GP2X will soon have a full speed GBA emulator thanks to zod and exophase. PS1 emulation is never going to be as good as PSP, it might get to a point where some games are playable but it will never surpass the PSP. I will say that I use my PSP a lot more than my GP2X. So if you want to play GBA, SNES, and PS1 games the PSP is better for that. Also I actually like the games for PSP; Metal Gear Solid, Medal of Honor Heroes, Medievil, Daxter, and Ratchet and Clank are pretty fun games imo. By the way memory sticks aren't really that much I got a 2GB High Speed Memory Stick here for $21.88.

I don't know about SNES these days, it is emulated pretty well in DrPocketSNES on the GP2X and it looks sharper and has no ghosting.

PSX, yes that will always be best on PSP.

I've heard about the ghosting problem but I've never had a problem with it, not that I've noticed at least.

I've seen about a ghosting problem, so I didn't buy one.

If you use both PocketSNES and SquidgeSNES, the emulation is *much* better on the GP2X. I've tried the SNES emulator on a friend's PSP and although it was often fairly fast (no faster than on the GP2X) there were lots of compatibility problems.

I have noticed the 'ghosting', but it isn't anywhere nearly as bad as many people take out (i.e. you don't get a 'blurry mess' halfway across the screen). You do get trails, though the most I've seen them get to is about 3mm, possible 4 sometimes. It doesn't look too nice for fast moving things, but it's tolerable.

Not for DaveC

I noticed some ghosting on my NDS Lite last night - reds turned to dark brown. I'm going to test the same GBA game on my GP2X and see if it performs better.

Anyway, if you want to buy it for emulation and movies.. go for it..

If you just want fancy 3D, consider a PSP or a DS

Only battery time is bad. Its just not enough for all good things you`ll find here... i`m getting 3,5-4 hours and want MOOORE....

That is my only problem right now with the GP2X, though if I buy 8 more rechargable batterys it should fix the problem.

have a look on youtube, alot of people have posted emulation videos of PSPs and DSs and GP2Xs on there

there is one that's actually a really good comparison, it runs the same snes rom on the three consoles side by side

i think after seeing the games actually running, you'll decide like i did that PSP may be slightly faster, but it's also alot less accurate

read one of those threads i posted before, it's a comparison by a guy who actually owns both a PSP and GP2X, and the 2X comes out as the winner by far, in everything except N64 and PSX emulation (both suck at PCE, GP2X wins at everything else)

as i was told in my thread: "buy it, you won't be dissatisfied", and that has been very very correct

gp2x rules!

Yeah the lite does have a bit of ghosting too, Not quite as bad as it is on the PSP though.

Add another cell on the back, proven 5.5-6.25 hours battery time. 3 Cell Battery Test thread


See above.

I got 5 hours 40 minutes @ 250mhz on a MK1 in battery test. 6 hours 17 minutes @ 200mhz.

NDS:
-to large for its power
-stilus handling is not useful for my preferred games
-you need expensive adapters for homebrew
-good display

PSP:
-really good 3d accomplishments
-absolute redundant umd-drive
-powerful, nice scaling but a really bad display (DaveC is right)
-stupid experiment of sony to prevent homebrew
-extrem large and heavy
-you risk to brick your psp during the downgrade
-best ps1 emulation ever
-expensive data storage


GP2X:
-powerful (the 3d capabilities of the nds should be possible in software)
-able to play most multimedia contents
-homebrew without patching
-some usable 3d-engines
-most software is open source
-best display of the handhelds (in my opinion)
-cheap data storage
-huge softwarepool
-best community


i own this handhelds. i prefer the gp2x for gaming and video,
the psp for ps1-emulation only (mostly in the night, because on day you see hardly anything on the dazzling screen), the nds to distract my girlfriend with nintendogs from the other handhelds.

All those decision threads about getting a PSP or DS or GP2x...

What about the decission I am facing ATM: GP2x, although I have a GP32?

What I am about to say is, what benefits do I get for the money? On my GP32 (clockable up to 156MHz) I can play GB, Genesis, NES, PCEngine quite well and for RPGs the SNES emulation is OK (except the games where the missing transparency is anoying! ChronoTrigger for one example)

What I have read here, I will get SNES with transparency but I do not know how fast it is. There are three diffrent SNES-emus AFAIK I am bit confused.
Additionally I will get GBA emulation as it seems. Which is a big plus for me.
Watching DIVX without transcoding first is a plus aswell. Movies on GP32 are not so interesting for me cause of the 128MB SMC limit. So I am looking forward to this.

Some things (GBA emulation and others) need the GP2x to be overclocked. 240MHz should be possible with all units as I read, but how big is the chance that it can go up to 266 or 300? Maybe I should talk to EvilDragon in private about this, cause I will get my GP2x from him (if he reserves one for me till mid april )

I really don't know what kind of reaction I will get for this post, but I hope they will make my decission easier. Spending 200EURO is not easy for me.

Ok guys, don't let anything hold you back from replying

creature

Storage capacity immediately comes to mind - I couldn't get by with 128Mb cards nowadays.

Plus, of course, NeoGeo and CPS2 emulation, which are amazing on the GP2X. The screen's nicer too!

I haven't tried CPS2 yet, but I think it is way better on a PSP, because it's widescreen, and the emu should be at least as good, since it's a port of a PSP emulator we have
But I agree for NeoGeo : resolution is just fine. Too bad it needs overclocking to achieve good performance. Sound emulation definitely needs more work

How do you know it is better on the PSP if you never tried the Gp2X version? BTW CPS2 is NOT widescreen, even in the arcade it was always 4:3 the pixels were just not square.

When I told about not having tried CPS2, I was spoking about PSP version sorry for the confusion
4:3 or not, the GP2X just don't show all the screen, so PSP's resolution fits CPS2 better, but I don't see myself playing marvel vs Capcom on its 2 penny worth joystick! And about performance, CPS2 emu is a port from a PSP emu, so it's at least as perofrmant
You choose : widescreen or better controls

You can scale down one direction (horizontal) on the GP2X version then it shows the full screen. You do miss one column every number of columns though but it is sharper and the aspect is correct. With the PSP one you don't loose any columns but it is more blurry looking with the filter and has ghosting. So neither one is "perfect". CPS2 like some other systems can never be perfect aspect at 1:1 on an LCD. You just need to chose which artifact bothers you least as both are a compromise.

Lol, I know I must be blind because I NEVER have seen ghosting on my Lite. I think you are searching probleme where there are not....

paxl13

Agreed, it's not a problem on the NDS (but *is* there). I was getting into the conversation topic a little too much!