synkro
Apr 6 2007, 12:47 PM
As we all know, compos are the best things that can happen to any hoembrew scene. Pulsating new energy, creativity and of course games through the veins of any kind of hardware. There were some badly promoted and poorly attended compos in the past for whatsoever reasons. Are the times for the big, engaging compos for the GP2X already over? Now, rumor has it that there will be no more GBAX compos as Craig and Guyfawkes split after a bad arguemnt two weeks ago. No more collaborations between the Emuholic remainder and us means the loss of the biggest homebrew compo we ever had. Are you brave enough to get a great compo going to the salvation for us all?
P.S. I am not talking about a Crap Games Compo as dicksp00n already failed on that task. I pitty that fool.
Guyfawkes
Apr 6 2007, 12:51 PM
heh
Tobriand
Apr 6 2007, 12:53 PM
Well, it is starting to be a little while since there was a competition, now, isn't it? I wonder if it's time to try and put one together...
Goob
Apr 6 2007, 02:00 PM
People here seem to be quite negative about compos. But just think about the quality of software we have seen from them.
craigix
Apr 6 2007, 02:29 PM
Awesome, what were they arguing about?
linoleum13
Apr 6 2007, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(craigix @ Apr 6 2007, 10:29 AM)

Awesome, what were they arguing about?
Maybe who had the bigger...ummm...joystick?
daclassicgamingmaster
Apr 6 2007, 02:40 PM
haha. What the hell happened to the CGC? It's like nick completely forgot about it

Anyway, we DO need another compo, but it must be run by people who are competant. I say we ask ED, Craig, and Guy to host this one. We know it will be done professionally.
Whatta ya say guys?
Alex.
Apr 6 2007, 03:21 PM
I was wondering the same thing myself. A GBAX2007 in the spring, and a new Community Games Contest in the fall/winter seems like the winning combination. Good luck to the organizers! :-)
PS: Oh, and perhaps having different categories for emus, ports, and original homebrew would be a good thing.
Guyfawkes
Apr 6 2007, 10:57 PM
I kinda like being on the other side of coding compos as despite being in the homebrew scene for god knows how many years I had never entered one until the community compo last year. I have lost count how many I have either organised, judged or been part in

But if Craig was up for doing gbax 2007 in the original format we done in previous years i.e. multi console, I would be very interested in doing it. If its just a GP2X compo I think I will give it a miss and probably enter a game I am (supposed to be) making instead.
Oh in case anyone is wondering, the first post is a part joke synkro started on IRC earlier, me and craig haven't had an argument
invinciblegod
Apr 6 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE(Guyfawkes @ Apr 6 2007, 03:57 PM)

Oh in case anyone is wondering, the first post is a part joke synkro started on IRC earlier, me and craig haven't had an argument

And this is why inside jokes aren't funny to most people.
Goob
Apr 6 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(Guyfawkes @ Apr 6 2007, 11:57 PM)

I kinda like being on the other side of coding compos as despite being in the homebrew scene for god knows how many years I had never entered one until the community compo last year. I have lost count how many I have either organised, judged or been part in

3?
Guyfawkes
Apr 6 2007, 11:21 PM
Many more than that, for example just this week I was a judge in the Neoflash DS and PSP coding compo
craigix
Apr 6 2007, 11:27 PM
PSP, GP2X and DS this year?
Guyfawkes
Apr 6 2007, 11:34 PM
sounds good! gimme a shout tomorrow
Alex.
Apr 7 2007, 12:28 AM
Excellent news, two victims to the growing empire of GP2X killer apps
RockOut
Apr 7 2007, 01:24 AM
Coding competitions are great and everything, but why can't we have a GP2X "X Prize"? For example, we could say "Whoever makes a working PSX emulator first will win so and so prize". That way, it will be much easier to get some high-quality software made instead of stuff which can be created in 2 weeks. I agree that the quick and dirty things are good, but most of the time even the best projects get dropped after the competition because there is no motivation to continue development. Bottom line, this year, the community should raise $ for a larger prize and whoever completes the task that we set first will win it.
Peter R
Apr 7 2007, 01:54 AM
Homebrew developers often have jobs as programmers where they are told what to do. Part of the compotetion is that they can be awarded for doing something that THEY want to do. Not what someone else wants them to do.
craigix
Apr 7 2007, 03:52 AM
Yeah, Sam is right there, I just like the quirky stuff which turns up with gbax, some of the gp32 stuff was very unique and much loved back in the day. It's just all good fun.
Blah
Apr 7 2007, 06:31 AM
Exactly. We need more of that GP32 style goodness.
synkro
Apr 7 2007, 09:13 AM
QUOTE(invinciblegod @ Apr 7 2007, 01:02 AM)

QUOTE(Guyfawkes @ Apr 6 2007, 03:57 PM)

Oh in case anyone is wondering, the first post is a part joke synkro started on IRC earlier, me and craig haven't had an argument

And this is why inside jokes aren't funny to most people.
Joke is not the right term here. As always we were discussing dev, scene and scrotum related issues at #gp2xdev. This thread is just the mere result of a few lines back there with just one goal.
QUOTE(craigix @ Apr 7 2007, 01:27 AM)

PSP, GP2X and DS this year?
Well, that's what we hoped to hear.
QUOTE(RockOut @ Apr 7 2007, 03:24 AM)

Coding competitions are great and everything, but why can't we have a
GP2X "X Prize"? For example, we could say
"Whoever makes a working PSX emulator first will win so and so prize". That way, it will be much easier to get some high-quality software made instead of stuff which can be created in 2 weeks. I agree that the quick and dirty things are good, but most of the time even the best projects get dropped after the competition because there is no motivation to continue development. Bottom line, this year, the community should raise $ for a larger prize and whoever completes the task that we set first will win it.

That's exactly the thing we
don't want to achieve with this initiative! Even though I am part of a fundamentalist dev minority that would love to see emus banned from compos, it's not me but the scene/organizers to decide such things.
QUOTE(Blah @ Apr 7 2007, 08:31 AM)

Exactly. We need more of that GP32 style goodness.
So, now everything is said.
Nova
Apr 7 2007, 09:48 AM
QUOTE(craigix @ Apr 7 2007, 12:27 AM)

PSP, GP2X and DS this year?
You've made my birthday

EDIT: I'll also donate money to the person who ports over Drunken Frogger from the compo a couple years back...
Guyfawkes
Apr 7 2007, 11:20 AM
Donskeeto wanted GP32 to be included in the compo, so I will see what craig says. I don't see any harm in it and there's nothing to lose.
In the past we have tried to make the competition rules as basic as possible, you can enter what you want software and most content within reason so I think having a specific prize for a specific type of entry wouldn't work and not in the style of the GBAX compos. Maybe do something like the bounty programs for gp32 a while back.
I will speak to craig hopefully later on and get some ideas down for the compo. One thing we will probably need are new splash screens for the compo, I will post more details when we have them.
Orkie
Apr 7 2007, 01:35 PM
I'd like the GP32 to be included too
synkro
Apr 7 2007, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(Guyfawkes @ Apr 7 2007, 01:20 PM)

Donskeeto wanted GP32 to be included in the compo, so I will see what craig says. I don't see any harm in it and there's nothing to lose.
Oh, yeah?! Like that lazy bum would finish a single bit
Dimacus
Apr 7 2007, 06:18 PM
Compos are always fun!
And this time I might even have enugh meat on my programming bones to enter.
yodaofborg
Apr 7 2007, 08:12 PM
Sure, I've been trying to get to grips with fenix, and after seeing what ruckage can do, well, I might have to look harder!
Digitalrat
Apr 7 2007, 09:36 PM
QUOTE
One thing we will probably need are new splash screens for the compo, I will post more details when we have them.
I would like to see something like last year where everyone could make splash screens and people could vote for the best ones afterwards.
RockOut
Apr 7 2007, 11:37 PM
I'm all for any ideas! I just think that the GP2X will become much more popular if it had some more high quality apps. I hate to say this, but how many versions of asteroids do we need? I think that the community should decide on the type of software to make and then have an x prize. We could do this in addition to GBAX. Having some killer applications would be a great booster to the GP2X scene. You could say, "my GP2X can play PS1 games full speed!". Then people will look more at the GP2X as a whole.
Alex.
Apr 7 2007, 11:50 PM
QUOTE(RockOut @ Apr 7 2007, 07:37 PM)

I'm all for any ideas! I just think that the GP2X will become much more popular if it had some more high quality apps. I hate to say this, but how many versions of asteroids do we need? I think that the community should decide on the type of software to make and then have an x prize. We could do this in addition to GBAX. Having some killer applications would be a great booster to the GP2X scene. You could say, "my GP2X can play PS1 games full speed!". Then people will look more at the GP2X as a whole.
Perhaps you should take a longer look at the software that came out of past competitions that allowed this dreaded
freedom before implying that no killer apps can come from one

Make bounties for specific software. Where's the gain in having 100 devs working on 100 similar projects?
Orkie
Apr 7 2007, 11:56 PM
QUOTE(RockOut @ Apr 8 2007, 12:37 AM)

I think that the community should decide on the type of software to make and then have an x prize.
This will put developers off doing that thing. I don't think any of us like being told by 'the community' (or rather one or two more vocal members of it).
Tobriand
Apr 8 2007, 12:10 AM
Seeing as this community did start with the GP32, it really ought to be included. I must say, I doubt there'd be more than one or two entries, given how most of the GP32 developers seem to have moved over to GP2x, but even still, it's only fair to give people the chance to dev on it if they want to.
Peter R
Apr 8 2007, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(Orkie @ Apr 8 2007, 12:56 AM)

QUOTE(RockOut @ Apr 8 2007, 12:37 AM)

I think that the community should decide on the type of software to make and then have an x prize.
This will put developers off doing that thing. I don't think any of us like being told by 'the community' (or rather one or two more vocal members of it).
As I said earlier. I thick Rockout posted this twice.
triksR4rabits
Apr 8 2007, 12:44 AM
QUOTE(Nova @ Apr 7 2007, 05:48 AM)

EDIT: I'll also donate money to the person who ports over Drunken Frogger from the compo a couple years back...
drunken frogger and drunken arcade master were by far my favorite gp32 homebrew games; so damn addicting and fun (NEVER left my smc). Whadaya say about finishing off the trilogy Craig
Guyfawkes
Apr 8 2007, 01:06 AM
yeah I reckon drunken pong
Goob
Apr 8 2007, 12:46 PM
Give us Drunken Tron!
Alex.
Apr 8 2007, 01:13 PM
Drunken Kong - come on, is that an ace name or not :-)
Javacat
Apr 8 2007, 01:32 PM
QUOTE(RockOut @ Apr 7 2007, 02:24 AM)

Coding competitions are great and everything, but why can't we have a GP2X "X Prize"? For example, we could say "Whoever makes a working PSX emulator first will win so and so prize". That way, it will be much easier to get some high-quality software made instead of stuff which can be created in 2 weeks. I agree that the quick and dirty things are good, but most of the time even the best projects get dropped after the competition because there is no motivation to continue development. Bottom line, this year, the community should raise $ for a larger prize and whoever completes the task that we set first will win it.

Bounties!!!
Nova
Apr 8 2007, 10:24 PM
Drunken Pong sounds good...
craigix
Apr 8 2007, 10:49 PM
I do have an idea for the 3rd game
Orkie
Apr 8 2007, 10:52 PM
So when will this be getting started, any guesses at a finishing date and will the DS definitely be allowed?
Javaguy
Apr 9 2007, 01:49 PM
thought I would post my support

just try and keep it so the competition is accesible to all skill levels...
synkro
Apr 9 2007, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(Orkie @ Apr 9 2007, 12:52 AM)

So when will this be getting started, any guesses at a finishing date and will the DS definitely be allowed?
TRAITOR!
Goob
Apr 9 2007, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(synkro @ Apr 9 2007, 04:21 PM)

TRAITOR!
???
Orkie
Apr 9 2007, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(Goob @ Apr 9 2007, 04:59 PM)

QUOTE(synkro @ Apr 9 2007, 04:21 PM)

TRAITOR!
???
QUOTE(Orkie @ Apr 8 2007, 11:52 PM)

So when will this be getting started, any guesses at a finishing date and will the DS definitely be allowed?
Nova
Apr 9 2007, 05:24 PM
Anyhow, I had a stab at some splash screens, feedback would be muchly appreciated.



I didn't draw the consoles, that was done by antiriad.
Javaguy
Apr 9 2007, 05:30 PM
nice! but some extra .. grainyness to the text would be good, to make it look as if it had been written on an uneven surface, with the paint not reaching parts of the wall, er, if you see what I mean
Nova
Apr 9 2007, 05:36 PM

Any better?
I dislike the ds one, but there's not that much space to play with...
daclassicgamingmaster
Apr 9 2007, 05:44 PM
Wouldn't emuholic also be included?
Nova
Apr 9 2007, 05:46 PM
goddamn!
Samba Pa Ti
Apr 9 2007, 07:25 PM
they look cool, but i think the text would look better if put on after shadows/lighting was altered.
on the last pic Gp2x is covered by a bit of shadow : (
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