I read on Engadget that GPH is setting up an 'App Store-like service' for the Wiz. Is this true? How does that work if there's no Wifi?

well, first off, its a rumor, but if it is true, it's probably a program on your home pc that will sync your recently purchased apps with your wiz when you plug it in, kinda like itunes and an ipod, ya know

damn lol. i was ready to show off to my friends who think that the app store is only on itouchs

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VapourStreak, I'm glad you chose that nick...

? huh?

Yikes, that sounds like that terrible software that came with the gp32.

which was... ?

nice member No.

Freelauncher on the GP32, And the sync/transfer software on the PC called PC Link then later when the BLU came out GP Manager.

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I'm looking forward to hearing more about this as well.

Hopefully it will be a regular online store with flexible payment options, as opposed to a standalone application. I also hope they'll keep the awkward visual novels to a minimum.

but it cant be on the wiz (like the itouch) because it has no wifi right? It has to be on a computer i think

im hoping gph will surprise us/me with wifi

It will be especially good if it is easy to sell your applications / games on there.


I somehow doubt we will have wifi.

hmm.. how did the web browsers for the gp2x work without wifi?

I'm not even going to bother answering this question but instead will simply tell you that the Wiz screen is too small for web browsing.

On the f100 at least, you could do USB networking and use an internet connected computer as a gateway, or use USB host mode to hook up a wifi dongle (but I think you have to supply extra power to the dongle).

is it possible to create a HTML reader then? I can make like a HTML portal for my PSP project Connect... without the wifi... nvm. Maybe ill make a.. windows? no wifi.... um.. Wii?

that should work? how about 360? sure...

we need a HTML reader... maybe including flash?

is it possible for us to stick in the dongle thing and use it as a msn client?

If by MSN client you are referring to the Microsoft ISP, then:

1. No.
2. Somebody uses that?!

For whatever reason I couldn't find it before, but here it is: http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/WirelessUSBTutorial

I think that if GPH said something about an App Store they meant something along the lines of a website with a shopping cart script

I think he meant msn as in the IM-client. I'd also like to know about running linux on the thing, it could be useful for limited purposes. I mean, both installing a usb or bluetooth dongle depend on having a linux distro on it. However, that's OT for the thread.

I really hope the app store means something along the lines of synaptic and not a windows app to sync it with pay-for minigames. Well, the gp2x route will still be open for us gnu users.

Hopefully, I won't sound like a moron asking this, but why could you not take one of the Sandisk or Palm Wifi cards that use the SD slot and write drivers for them for the Wiz?

screen too small for browsing ?????

so your telling me the wiz is too small for web browsing then what about the cell phone is that suppose to be a joke??

Okay, you HAVE to be kidding me... the Wiz runs linux as it's operating system. How could you not know this? I mean, yeah you might overlook something like this normally, but you are on these boards since 2006 and the wiz has been discussed at length including the ease of porting apps from the gp2x to the wiz since they are both using linux!!!

And why would you want an apt-get like service when there clearly is no WiFi? Didn't we establish that in this thread already? I'd rather have an online store that I can actually browse in linux (not like that win32 crap they had for the gp32) and then slam the games I purchase on my SD card... Please god, do not let them mess this up with DRM... I am still considering to buy a Wiz in 2009 but DRM will be a deal breaker for me.




Well, first you would need to not only have an SDHC slot but one that supports SDIO. I am not entirely sure but I think the wiz only has an SDHC slot, so you wouldn't get very far inserting a WiFi SDIO card. And even if they included SDIO, you still need to have drivers for those cards. I have never used one of these so I don't know if drivers for these things are required per manufacturer or if there is an opensource driver etc etc. So probably this is not an option.


Seriously... have you ever considered that browsing on a cell phone sucks? I assume you are referring to WAP on the cellphone because normally webbrowsing is not possible on a mobile, only on the new generation smart phones (black berry, iPhone, LG chocolate blablabla) and those usually have bigger screens and browsing on them still mostly sucks. The only good experience I had so far was when trying the iPhone. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it has to be done. I hardly know anyone who ever used WAP for anything useful but downloading expensive ringtones and javagames...

Most websites are optimized for at least 800x600 resolutions. Now imagine trying to convert that to make it readable on a tiny 2.8" screen at 320x240... have fun with that abomination! Just imagine trying to read a thread on gp32x that includes pictures. You will most certainly go nuts... Give it a try on your gp2x. Install qtopia and load some html files with opera (or whatever browser is included, I forgot).

GPH may develop a website optimized for 320x240 that will be the shop

LOL... yeah and it'll only be in Korean but will feature an automated google translation. "Purchase the great opportunity to entertain household. Super Mega animated film playback."

Yes, I do know that it runs linux. However for using things like bluetooth dongles you need a distro as I _highly_ doubt that gph kernel holds the modules to do all that. That's what I meant with 'linux', a distro. I'm not familiar with open2x but I think that's along the lines of what we need for bluetooth or wifi dongles.



Apt-get for the emulators then automatic syncing with sd cards? Make sense? Sounds like something I'd like. It wouldn't be 'apt-get' per se, but I used the name just to convey the basic mechanic. Yes, I think the app-store will be along the lines of what you said and that was what I was trying to say as well, anything but a windows app for the store. I agree about DRM.

Regarding webbrowsers etc. network apps, I'm in the meh camp, it might be good enough for MSN/gtalk/IM, but there's plenty of gadgets that do that already.

Me and my two pet parrots like watching films... on small display...

Okay, every linux install is somehow a "distro". Loading a compiled module into the kernel is like one command. There is no need for anything like a debian distro or similar. Loading module was also possible on the gp2x... so this still doesn't make any sense. That's why you need a sort of open source driver.



Okay, I get what you want to do but apt-get was just a very confusing example in this context.

Fine, maybe I was overly vague. You're right, a dongle just needs a module. Frankly I don't have a clue where to look to add just a module to the gp2x. So a precompiled binary release with assorted tools would be preferrable than just distributing a module as such.

The problem isn't with the slot or the hardware, it's the lack of a driver. I have to assume that creating one isn't trivial. To my knowledge, the main reason it hasn't been done for GP2X is that the GPH kernel is based on 2.4 so any recent code you find would need to be essentially rewritten. Maybe Open2x will make things easier.

So Larken, yes you could use an SDIO card if you had a driver. The thing is, the writing the driver part isn't trivial. Maybe it will happen. But I wouldn't buy the Wiz assuming it's going to happen. If it does, it'd be nice.

Hehe.

Your drunk or high? I really hope your kidding you dont think they would post every positive about the wiz they could for pr but surprise us with wifi? Just as a bonus.... no way not a chance in hell sorry man no wifi.

I agree that the likelihood of GPH throwing in wifi at the last minute is just about zero, but all hope is not lost. According to ED's naked Wiz pics, here is a bit or room inside the case on either side of the battery. A clever modder could possibly cram a wifi chipset in there and wire it directly to the USB pins on the EXT connector. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's an option if wifi is a deal breaker for you.

http://www.gp2xwiz.co.kr/FrontStore/PointB...y=0&iPage=1

cool but it would be a expensive add on or in the next generation of wiz's